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Re: Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.

by "super_stonic@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <super_stonic@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 10, 2007 at 07:27 PM

On Oct 31, 8:50 am, la...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On Oct 31, 3:24 am, "Mr. Maddog" <MrMaddog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> The 64 blew the atari out of the water with the sound and graphics,
> sure the Atari had four voices, which were OK and the graphics had
> more colors but you could not use to many of them in one place all at
> once

Depends on what game.  I've seen plenty to make the argue for either.
For example, the Atari version of Rescue on Fractalus is superior in
everything (sound, graphics, gameplay). Even though the C-64 came out
3 years after the Atari 800, its specs matched up pretty good (and by
1983 the 800XL came with 64K memory stock):

Atari 800
http://www.vintage-computer.com/atari_800.shtml

C-64
http://www.vintage-computer.com/commodore64.shtml

The one area that the C-64 *should* win flat out is sound, but (as
with the graphics), the quality of the games usually came down to the
programmer, and today's 8-bit programmers continue to push the
hardware beyond what most felt were "impossible" (much like some of
today's VCS/2600 programmers).



>
> As an example here's Donkey Kong for the
64http://www.c64gg.com/Images/D/Donkey_Kong_Nin.ss.gif
>
> And Donkey Kong for the
Atari:http://www.backntime.net/Atari%20Computers/8bit/Emulators/800Win_DK.jpg
>


Bad links.  Try these:

Atari
http://www.digitpress.com/dpsightz/atari8bit/donkeykong.gif

C-64 (Atarisoft)
http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=2260&d=18&h=0

C-64 (Ocean)
http://www.gamebase64.com/game.php?id=2261&d=18&h=0

Arcade
http://www.klov.com/images/11/1181242103213.png

Granted, none of the ****ts are arcade-perfect.  The graphics in
Ocean's version are the most accurate, but in this case, the sound f/x
in the Atari 800 version are by far the best (both C-64 versions have
horrible sound f/x).  Plus the C-64 Atarisoft version is agonizingly
slow to play (for some reason my ViceC64 emulator refuses to recognize
the controller with Ocean's version, so I can't tell how it plays).

The Atari version actually plays too fast (again, this might be an
emulator issue), and yeah, the damn ape is on the wrong side of the
screen on the first level :)  Plus it's missing all the little extras
(like the opening sequence, or the ending sequence on the rivet
screen).  But if you're trying to make a case that the C-64 is
superior, Donkey Kong isn't the game to use :)
 




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Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.
Rich Hutnik <getrich@[  2007-10-24 07:34:09 
Re: Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.
jt august <starsabre@[  2007-10-26 00:35:08 
Re: Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.
"Mr. Maddog" &l  2007-10-29 04:59:38 
Re: Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.
"winston19842005@[EM  2007-10-29 22:03:27 
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jt august <starsabre@[  2007-10-31 10:08:26 
Re: Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2007-10-31 09:43:54 
Re: Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.
jt august <starsabre@[  2007-11-01 03:53:21 
Re: Jack Tramiel failed to save Atari.
"Mr. Maddog" &l  2007-10-31 03:24:00 
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"winston19842005@[EM  2007-10-31 03:53:28 
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Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2007-10-31 09:49:17 
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larry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-31 13:50:29 
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jt august <starsabre@[  2007-11-02 00:24:23 
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"Ensor" <non  2007-11-08 02:35:45 
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"winston19842005@[EM  2007-10-31 08:22:31 
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"winston19842005@[EM  2007-10-31 08:27:36 
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"winston19842005@[EM  2007-10-31 08:35:27 
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"winston19842005@[EM  2007-10-31 22:26:03 
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"Edward S. Baiz Jr.&  2007-11-03 07:28:00 
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"Gareth" <ho  2007-11-10 19:04:56 
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"super_stonic@[EMAIL  2007-11-10 19:27:34 
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"super_stonic@[EMAIL  2007-11-10 20:12:34 
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jt august <starsabre@[  2007-11-11 20:38:59 

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