On 13 May 2008 as I do recall,
valis wrote:
> > So basically, what I'm doing wrong is spending all my start points at
> > the start? I do keep three or four back, but basically I should be
> > keeping most of them back?
>
> Well, I'm just saying, Steamband characters tend to be more powerful
> when they focus on one or two things, and just avoid that which they
> cannot kill. Where are you putting all those starting points?
Well with Rogues you're supposed to get special powers if you raise
latin and Stealth and Searching and Disarming, and you start off with
throwing daggers and a gun so I thought you were supposed to choose one
of those as well. Throwing is three more skills to raise just on its
own and guns don't work safely until you put a lot of points in....
And every character has to put some points into combat, at least at the
start. Otherwise you end up ba****ng chickens and nothing happens.
;-p
(By the way when you wield a spellbook for the attack bonus and then
hit something, you get the message 'you scratch the monster'. Wouldn't
it be more of a blunt attack than a swords attack?)
And Rogues are supposed to be good at devices as well. You have to
pick one of Devices and guns and throwing or you don't get a long-range
attack. You need something to kill off Mylings. Or you can go the
Occult route and that's another four skills to raise....
So I usually started by raising all the skills on the first page up to a
level of 3 and two or three on the second. Then new paths keep opening
out and you have to drop a lot of them.
>
> Glad to see you're enjoying steam.
>
> -Campbell
I tried a Martial Arts rogue like the one you suggested and got quite a
long way (for me). Died on level 44 as per usual, I ran out of healing
when fighting Steam Balls when they kept blinding me and I couldn't run
away. I knew I had the quest which is why I put points into all those
anti-machine skills but I didn't know they did that.
I actually got killed by a Troglodyte that turned up in the dark after I
killed the last Steam Ball of that batch. I thought I'd got away with
it. :-(
I didn't have nearly enough skill points to go in for theft or anything
though....
[Steamband 0.4.1 Character Dump]
Name Shalbe Self abcdefghijkl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best
*** Male Age 26 Mus: 194 ............. 215
Race African Height 71 AGI: 394 ............. 394
Class Rogue Weight 206 Vig: 197 ............. 212
Title Robber Status 1 SCH: 177 ............. 177
WP -2/19 MaxDepth Lev 44 EGO: 192 ............. 192
SP 77/77 Preserve Y CHR: 202 ............. 202
Level 18 Armor [12,+19] Saving Throw
Tolerable
Cur Exp 7475 Blows 3/turn Stealth
Legendary[5+]
Max Exp 7475 Shots 5/turn Fighting
Legendary[3]
Adv Exp 8100 Infra 60 ft Shooting
Good
Disarming
Champion
Stat Skill Equip. Total Magic Device
Fair
Melee (+3,+1) (+0,+0) (+16,+0) (+19,+1) Perception
Poor
Shoot (+3,+0) (+0,+0) (+19,+2) (+22,+2) Searching
Tolerable
You are the first child of a Medicine Man. You are the
black sheep of the family. You have brown eyes, wavy black
hair, and a very dark complexion.
[Resists & Abilities]
Critical:............. Fthr Fall:............. Hvy
Curse:.............
Vampiric:............. Telepathy:.............
Mutation:.............
Throw:............. See Invis:............. No
Magic:.............
Vorpal:............. Free Act:...+......... No
Teleprt.............
Return:............. Wraithfrm:............. Drain
SP:.............
Frce Brnd:............. Hold Life:............. Drain
HP:.............
Fire Brnd:............. Reflect:.............
Disrupt:.............
Elec Brnd:............. Invisible:............. Drn
Items:.............
Ice Brand:............. Res Confu:............. Drn
Exp:.............
Acid Brnd:............. Res Blind:.............
Tele****t:.............
Psn. Brnd:............. Res Fear:.............
Aggravate:.............
Resistances:
Poisn:75% ........++....
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[Last Messages]
> You feel something roll beneath your feet.
> You have 5 Mechanical Steam-Powered Balls remaining to complete your
quest.
> You can't see anything.
> It hits you.
> * low hitpoint warning! 71/216 *
> *** LOW WOUNDPOINT WARNING! 1/20 ***
> It hits you.
> * low hitpoint warning! 68/216 *
> *** LOW WOUNDPOINT WARNING! 0/20 ***
> You weakly hit it three times, killing it.
> You have killed it.
> Your wounds sap your strength.
> You have no more "Morrison's Sure Cure" Tonics {tried} (c).
> It pierces you!
> You die.
[Skills]
Disarming Traps 12
Disable Machine 8
Assassination 13
Theft 1
Stealth 20
Superstealth 1
Searching 4
Neophyte Combat 5
Standard Combat 1
Swift Blow 1
Martial Arts 19
Eagle Strike Arts 7
Neophyte Firearms 1
Critical Shot 1
Throwing 1
Critical Throw 1
Throwing Accuracy 1
Swords 1
Daggers 1
Acrobatics 9
Dirty Fighting 11
Latin {*} 1
Occult Lore {O} 1
Ritual Magic {O} 1
Spirituality {S} 1
Tempered Will {*} 1
Sabotage 12
Gadgeteer 1
Utility Bandolier 1
Velocipede 1
Analytic Engine 1
Using Devices 5
Advanced Devices 1
Device Power Amp 3
[Steamware & Mutations]
You can evade monsters more effectively for a time.
You make a lot of strange noise (-3 stealth).
You have alpha level enhanced eyesight (60' infra).
[Character Equipment]
b) a .22 Bolt Action Rifle (x2) (+3,+2)
c) a Fluorite Ring of Accuracy (+16)
d) a Bronze Ring of Freedom of Mobility
e) a Pearl Amulet of Regeneration
f) a Wooden Torch [2] <Fuel: 5585>
g) a Leather Waistcoat [3,+0]
h) a Cloak [1,+0]
i) a Pair of Breeches of Inviolability to Poison [3,+4]
j) a Gas Mask [0,+0]
k) a Set of Leather Gloves [2,+0]
l) a Pair of Square Toe Shoes [3,+3]
[Character Inventory]
a) 3 Cheese
b) a Meat Pie
c) The Book [Jane Eyre]
d) 12 Aluminum-Plated Radiophonic Mechanisms of Phase Door {40% off}
e) 7 Mechanical Synchrometer Mechanisms of Etheric Travel {10% off}
f) 9 Aluminum-Plated Teleton Mechanisms of Returning {40% off}
g) a Clicking Quadraton Mechanism of Power Cell {10% off}
h) 16 Iron Microphone Mechanisms of Detect Invisible
i) 2 Molybdenum Ray Guns of Fire (11 charges) {10% off}
j) a Pearl-Plated Ray Gun of Wind (18 charges)
k) a Gold-Plated Ray Gun of Ice (16 charges)
l) 4 Zirconium Ray Guns of Photic Beam (71 charges)
m) a Tin-Plated Ray Gun of Befuddlement (12 charges)
n) a Balanced Tool of Object Analysis (8 charges)
o) an Adjustable Tool of Photon Generation (44 charges)
p) an Ivory Tool of Object Location (12 charges)
q) a Jet Ring of Resist Bewilderment
r) a Copper Amulet of Perception <+5>
s) a Bastard Sword of Shocking (3d4|3) (+6,+3)
[Home Inventory]
a "Althrop's Constitutional" Tonic of Restore Vigor {75% off}
5 Alien Geodyne Mechanisms of Object Analysis {40% off}
a Molybdenum Aethercopter Mechanism of Detailed Object Analysis
an Electric Heliodyne Mechanism of Remove Curse
18 Clicking Quadraton Mechanisms of Power Cell {10% off}
[Current Quest]
To fulfill your task, you must destroy 5 Mechanical Steam-Powered Balls on
dungeon level 44.
[Options]
Adult: Preserve artifacts when leaving level : yes (adult_preserve)
Adult: Restrict the use of stairs/recall : no (adult_ironman)
Adult: Restrict the use of stores/home : no (adult_no_stores)
Adult: Restrict creation of artifacts : no (adult_no_artifacts)
Adult: Randomize some of the artifacts (beta): no (adult_rand_artifacts)
Score: Peek into object creation : no (score_peek)
Score: Peek into monster creation : no (score_hear)
Score: Peek into dungeon creation : no (score_room)
Score: Peek into something else : no (score_xtra)
Score: Know complete monster info : no (score_know)
Score: Allow player to avoid death : no (score_live)
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I like work; it fascinates me; I can sit and look at it for hours.
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