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Re: Call for mixed blessing-style jewellery and consumables

by Billy Bissette <baines@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 28, 2008 at 09:30 PM

Andrew Sidwell <takkaria@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:fv5flg$q6l$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Armor and weapons could be consumable.  They could degenerate with
>> use - how quickly would depend on how many/hard hits they take or
>> give, on the item's quality,
> 
> I think this is less of a mixed-blessing idea and more a fundamental 
> rework of how weapons or armour work.  To make it an interesting game 
> mechanic, you would need some significant percentage of combat gear be 
> subject to wear and tear, and I think that's out of scope for V.

  It also is a very dangerous thing to implement.

  I believe Kamband is the variant I played that tried this?  (It was
the same variant that made objects have a random material type, which
led to some funny short item descriptions.)  Weapons simply wore down
too fast.

  Indeed, from my experience in various games that try this idea,
either equipment wears down so fast as to be annoying to dangerous,
or it wears down so slow as to be ignorable.

  Angband has two further issues.

  The first is the variable amounts of creatures.  What may be a good
wear rate for fighting trolls may not be a good rate for fighting dog
packs.  What works well for separate small packs of orcs may be too
quick to deal with an orc unique's retinue.  Similar issues occur if
you go for other measures of damage, such as messing up a sword
faster on a stone/metal golem than on bats.  What you end up facing
in a single level can be so variable.

  The second issue is that people would fight against artifacts
wearing.  They may even fight against egos, or want reduced rates
on such objects.  Which ultimately just encourages people to use
only those objects, rather than encouraging people to more readily
switch to new weapons when their old ones begin to wear down.
 




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Call for mixed blessing-style jewellery and consumables
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-04-19 05:38:39 
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Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-04-19 01:50:50 
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Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-04-28 19:43:22 
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R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-04-30 15:30:51 
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Igenlode Wordsmith <Us  2008-05-01 01:54:58 
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Christopher Evenstar <  2008-05-11 10:19:35 
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David Vestal <dvestal@  2008-04-19 06:24:50 
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Hallvard B Furuseth <h  2008-04-21 14:07:10 
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zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 05:44:31 
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Hallvard B Furuseth <h  2008-04-21 16:47:59 
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zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-21 13:56:18 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-04-22 00:05:40 
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Hallvard B Furuseth <h  2008-04-21 23:28:38 
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Andrew Doull <andrewdo  2008-04-20 19:16:31 
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=?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBQaWV0aWz  2008-04-21 11:01:02 
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Gargoon <Noograg@[EMAI  2008-04-21 02:00:37 
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David Vestal <dvestal@  2008-04-21 06:55:46 
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R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-04-22 07:22:39 
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Billy Bissette <baines  2008-04-22 19:04:46 
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Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-04-28 19:59:15 
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Ray Dillinger <bear@[E  2008-04-21 20:07:52 
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The Wanderer <inversep  2008-04-22 06:46:55 
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Ray Dillinger <bear@[E  2008-04-22 18:07:42 
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The Wanderer <inversep  2008-04-23 07:34:52 
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Otto Martin <otto.mart  2008-04-23 22:16:34 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-04-24 08:20:39 
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zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-22 23:15:49 
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"FirstLetterOfTheAlp  2008-04-25 01:49:04 
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try@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-04-30 04:48:54 
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Ray Dillinger <bear@[E  2008-05-03 09:50:19 
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Igenlode Wordsmith <Us  2008-04-22 00:42:27 
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Igenlode Wordsmith <Us  2008-04-29 00:46:46 
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Igenlode Wordsmith <Us  2008-04-29 23:56:17 
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Nick <nckmccnnll@[EMAI  2008-04-28 23:21:59 
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R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-05-04 21:12:27 
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konijn_ <konijn@[EMAIL  2008-04-25 08:25:22 
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"dstillwa@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-28 07:15:33 
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jwk <_hate_spam_thunde  2008-04-28 16:49:18 
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konijn_ <konijn@[EMAIL  2008-04-28 10:29:22 
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Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-04-28 22:30:24 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-04-29 01:04:29 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-04-29 23:41:01 
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Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-05-15 18:34:08 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-05-15 22:24:41 
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Billy Bissette <baines  2008-04-28 21:30:07 
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Igenlode Wordsmith <Us  2008-04-30 00:01:27 
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Billy Bissette <baines  2008-04-28 21:38:38 
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zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 21:14:31 
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Big Al <bigAlexPhillip  2008-04-28 21:32:56 
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Christophe <chris.cava  2008-04-29 11:56:44 
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Billy Bissette <baines  2008-04-29 18:23:28 
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"dstillwa@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-29 06:56:15 
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will_asher@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-29 11:07:43 
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Igenlode Wordsmith <Us  2008-04-30 00:06:41 
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Hallvard B Furuseth <h  2008-04-29 22:28:45 
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Igenlode Wordsmith <Us  2008-04-30 00:32:20 
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George Smith <gsmith@[  2008-04-29 22:23:37 
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Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-05-15 18:33:57 
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Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-04-30 19:49:15 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-05-01 13:51:59 
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"dstillwa@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 05:53:55 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-05-02 17:15:36 
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R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-05-04 21:12:28 
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Nick <nckmccnnll@[EMAI  2008-05-15 16:05:15 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-05-16 17:30:49 
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Nick <nckmccnnll@[EMAI  2008-05-20 00:53:54 

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