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Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time

by Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd <zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 27, 2008 at 11:30 PM

On 2008-03-27 22:00:02, The Wanderer <inverseparadox@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Hiedran wrote:
> 
> > On Mar 27, 12:53 pm, Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2008-03-27 19:01:09, Matthew Collett 
> >> wrote:
> 
> >>> The OP's complaint is that those 100 turns don't just make
> >>> s***ming annoying, but also interfere with fast diving ("the
> >>> closest down stairs").
> >>
> >> The OP has intentionally decided not to dive as fast as possible,
> >> as the level feeling is actually useful to him.
> >>
> >> If I could configure the level feeling to react to items on the
> >> floor that are useful but in depth, and further more react to *my*
> >> notion of how useful the items are, I'd actually consider using the
> >> feeling.  Being able to configure hazardous monsters would also be
> >> a bonus, although perhaps that should be another axis of level
> >> feeling.  Thinking about it...the fixed object-based level feeling
> >> should be configurable from the squelch interface.
> >>
> >> As it is, both the level feeling and autos*** are next-to-useless
> >> in V3.0.9-.
> >
> > I think level feeling shouldn't reflect in-depth items or monsters.
> > To the character, they're par for the course, so nothing special.
> 
> Oh, really?
> 
> A character who is way out of his or her ordinary depth might well be
> very interested in an item which is in its depth - *Healing*, or stat
> potions, or Acquirement, for instance. Just because they're in-depth
> doesn't mean they aren't special, either on account of being rare at any
> depth or on account of the character not having obtained enough of them
> for said character's own personal tastes.

In my case, I'm interested in several things:
* useful objects that have suddenly gone in depth (when I'm building a
stack of
attack rods, for instance)
* the dungeon spellbooks are underrated under the current system
* monsters of unusual lethality.

I honestly couldn't care less about ego armors that only provide single
resists
most of the time: they're not even useful as cashflow (dominated by ego
weapons).  Ego armors have have higher ratings than either useful objects
or
dangerous monsters, so from my point of view the rating system is actively
misleading.

I do agree that allowing player configurablility is *very* abusable, but I
just
don't see how "one-size fits all" is going to work without thoroughly
rebalancing both monsters and item pricing.
 




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Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Hiedran <hiedran.the.f  2008-03-27 07:41:47 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-27 08:40:14 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Matthew Collett <m.col  2008-03-28 07:01:09 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-27 18:53:56 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Martin Bazley <martin@  2008-04-11 19:28:01 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-04-12 12:19:42 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-04-12 14:26:08 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-04-12 22:45:52 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-27 17:12:29 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Hiedran <hiedran.the.f  2008-03-27 12:09:02 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-27 13:28:41 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-27 17:01:42 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-27 22:39:32 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-28 02:47:47 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-27 15:19:11 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-27 19:08:21 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-04-10 17:43:00 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-04-10 23:18:10 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-27 23:07:38 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
<a>   2008-04-01 20:46:06 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Hiedran <hiedran.the.f  2008-03-27 12:14:01 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-27 17:00:02 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-27 23:30:49 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Hiedran <hiedran.the.f  2008-03-27 13:48:27 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-28 02:05:54 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-27 19:25:30 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-04-01 21:04:38 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
"FirstLetterOfTheAlp  2008-04-03 20:56:45 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-04-04 07:27:53 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
"FirstLetterOfTheAlp  2008-04-03 21:38:46 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-04-04 07:11:22 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
"FirstLetterOfTheAlp  2008-04-10 09:05:02 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-04-10 17:32:27 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-04-10 22:09:19 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-04-10 14:08:55 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Rich Walker <rw@[EMAIL  2008-04-12 13:25:27 
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Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-04-28 23:09:36 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Martin Bazley <martin@  2008-04-04 19:02:02 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-04-10 21:13:47 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Antoine <antoine.from.  2008-04-12 02:59:05 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-04-12 14:56:19 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-04-12 16:33:37 
Re: Minor annoyance - display unused rest time
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-04-12 16:48:07 

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