On 2008-03-19 18:20:29, Josh Hayes <joshno@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd wrote in
> news:frp620$5n$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > On 2008-03-18 18:15:34, Eddie Grove wrote:
> >> I don't know Z, but this sounds really wrong to me. Even with a
> >> warrior, there are usually enough staves of speed so that I fight
> >> with a +10 temp speed boost for all im****tant fights. The
> >> non-linearity of speed means that there is not that much difference
> >> between speed +46 and speed +33. It comes to about 13% in V. Ring
> >> slots are precious. If one speed ring gets me to +20 perm speed, I
> >> rarely use another.
> >
> > But that implies at base speed +36 he doesn't *need* to cart around
> > speed items, other than to deal with irresistible slowing. Instant
> > free inventory slots.
> >
> > I'd lean towards the Fast (+36) base, *especially* if the randart
> > sling also had extra shots. Extra Shots +4 translates to an energy
> > cost of 20, which means in an extended series of sling fire he gets
> > *two* shots per time tick, guaranteed, at speed +36. (Minimum speed
> > for this breakpoint would be +35).
> >
>
> This is in fact correct: the sling is (x3) and also extra shots,
> although I have yet to find truly great ammo for it.
I was guessing, from Hengband, that this was possible. It makes a huge
difference in the analysis.
> The fact is, my melee weapon is pretty crappy and I haven't found
> anything much better -- it's a randart with +4 to speed (which used to
> be im****tant) and both frost and fire brand, and that's about it. Just
> about any non-dagger artifact would be superior, but mostly I'm hunting
> for Groo about now; the katana would be truly terrific in this case, and
> I'd maybe put back on one of those extra attack rings for that; I'll
> have to run the numbers on it, if I can get it.
>
> Thanks for all the input, but as someone has pointed out, O-combat is
> really quite different from vanilla. It takes some getting used to. I'll
> let you know what kills me.
Precisely. A dagger just is not going to compete with a highly-enchanted
sling
in O-style, so the melee damage reduction just isn't quantitatively
significant.
The sling damage increase, and reduced need for speed items, should
compensate
until you get an effective melee weapon.
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