On Mar 18, 1:35 pm, Eddie Grove <eddiegr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> pete m <pmac...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> > On Mar 18, 10:15 am, Eddie Grove <eddiegr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > Josh Hayes <jos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> > > > You may recall a couple weeks ago I had a dwarf warrior in
Zangband find a
> > > > Robe of Permanence at 100 feet?
>
> > > > Well, contrary to all expectations he's still alive, clevel 36
dlevel 56,
> > > > and fairly good kit. Until I hit an odd hourglass-shaped vault.
There was
> > > > nothing terribly scary in it -- except Corwin; eek! -- and I
persuaded him
> > > > to chase me out of the vault, tele****ted away, and snuck back on
the OTHER
> > > > side of the vault to loot it while he waited outside.
>
> > > > Long story short, I had only a little permanent speed, but in the
vault
> > > > found not one, but TWO RoS -- the first +13, the second +15.
>
> > > > Ho. Ly. CRAP! I had to shed my two rings of extra attacks (+1),
but it's so
> > > > worth it to have permanent speed +36 altogether (4 from my randart
weapon,
> > > > 4 from my randart sling). Keep on DIVING!
>
> > > I don't know Z, but this sounds really wrong to me. Even with a
warrior,
> > > there are usually enough staves of speed so that I fight with a +10
temp speed
> > > boost for all im****tant fights. The non-linearity of speed means
that there
> > > is not that much difference between speed +46 and speed +33. It
comes to
> > > about 13% in V. Ring slots are precious. If one speed ring gets me
to +20
> > > perm speed, I rarely use another.
>
> > I agree with this for V-combat, but it's probably a tougher decision
> > with O-combat. Unlike Rings of Damage, Rings of Deadliness are pretty
> > much junk.
>
> Surely there are other rings. Extra attacks sounds more useful,
particularly
> if there is a maximum of 5 attacks with big heavy weapons.
Whoops, I should have noticed that. You are right: 10% from speed is
worse than 20% from attacks.
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