On 2008-03-18 18:15:34, Eddie Grove <eddiegrove@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Josh Hayes writes:
>
> > You may recall a couple weeks ago I had a dwarf warrior in Zangband
find a
> > Robe of Permanence at 100 feet?
> >
> > Well, contrary to all expectations he's still alive, clevel 36 dlevel
56,
> > and fairly good kit. Until I hit an odd hourglass-shaped vault. There
was
> > nothing terribly scary in it -- except Corwin; eek! -- and I persuaded
him
> > to chase me out of the vault, tele****ted away, and snuck back on the
OTHER
> > side of the vault to loot it while he waited outside.
> >
> > Long story short, I had only a little permanent speed, but in the
vault
> > found not one, but TWO RoS -- the first +13, the second +15.
> >
> > Ho. Ly. CRAP! I had to shed my two rings of extra attacks (+1), but
it's so
> > worth it to have permanent speed +36 altogether (4 from my randart
weapon,
> > 4 from my randart sling). Keep on DIVING!
>
> I don't know Z, but this sounds really wrong to me. Even with a
warrior,
> there are usually enough staves of speed so that I fight with a +10 temp
speed
> boost for all im****tant fights. The non-linearity of speed means that
there
> is not that much difference between speed +46 and speed +33. It comes
to
> about 13% in V. Ring slots are precious. If one speed ring gets me to
+20
> perm speed, I rarely use another.
But that implies at base speed +36 he doesn't *need* to cart around speed
items,
other than to deal with irresistible slowing. Instant free inventory
slots.
I'd lean towards the Fast (+36) base, *especially* if the randart sling
also had
extra shots. Extra Shots +4 translates to an energy cost of 20, which
means in
an extended series of sling fire he gets *two* shots per time tick,
guaranteed,
at speed +36. (Minimum speed for this breakpoint would be +35).
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