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Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char

by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pietil=E4?= <timo.pietila@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 18, 2008 at 07:07 PM

Andrew Sidwell wrote:
> Timo Pietilä wrote:
>> About ranger ID, I think that ranger should have strong pseudo like 
>> all other warrior-spellcasters. It is slow enough that it would still 
>> suck, but at least you could be sure that items that you have have 
>> been pseudo-identified. And big majority of spells removed. Rogue is 
>> the one that should have more spells, because rogue doesn't have any 
>> special abilities.
>  >
>> In my variant there will be "archer" class which is basically bookless 
>> ranger with better melee and Ranger will be less bow-oriented class 
>> with slightly better non-offensive magic. I give rogue something to 
>> make it interesting (don't know yet what, but I have few ideas).
> 
> I am very interested in seeing more patched versions of the game around 
> which embody particular ideas on how things should be done (like Eddie's

> patch).  Even smallish patches, because having something concrete to 
> play as a suggestion rather than newsgroup posts is a really excellent 
> way to make it far more likely your changes end up in V.  :)

Short to do:

- Remove "extend power of look command". What you see is what you can 
identify. Blue potion revealed from detecion is just blue potion until 
you really see it.
- Restore rchaos giving resistance to confusion effect.
- Restore chaos being the most damaging of all high elements
- Make poison true high element by making it follow same rules as rest 
of the high elements (dlvl ~2000 instakiller).
- Make paralyzation effect not stackable so that you might break free 
with luck from paralyzation if monster misses you in turn you recover 
from it (dlvl ~1000 instakiller).
- Tweak artifacts a lot (remove weak, boost rare)
- Tweak ego-items quite a bit (remove useless and near-useless items)
- Tweak monsters a lot (remove some uniques, tweak depths, make them 
more tolkienised (major changes to dragons, some changes to demons, 
angels get renamed))
- Tweak some normal items.
- Remove hard limits for all OoD possibilities, but make sure that 
extreme cases are also extremely rare.
- Modify some effects of some items (probing should reveal what monster 
can do to you, not other way around, etc.).
- Deal somehow with TMJ. (Pits get smaller, item drops smaller but 
better quality, that kind of stuff).

Next one is beyond my current programming skills, but when I have 
learned enough I try to implement it.

- Separate telepathy from ESP. Make ESP area effect that detects a lot 
more than just monsters, but with much less info with centerpoint to 
character (might be really slow on older machines)). Make telepathy 
two-way thing with some monster/character level based chance of instant 
detection like aggravation, but also reveal everything from the monster.

- Make mimics real animated items. Make skeletons skeletons and mummies 
etc corpses and sometimes corpses just being corpses to create some 
atmosphere.

Unfortunately I don't really have much time to work with code.

Timo Pietilä
 




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Another soon-to-be-dead char
Josh Hayes <joshno@[EM  2008-03-03 19:33:28 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
David J Richardson <wo  2008-03-04 10:12:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 04:54:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
<a>   2008-03-04 00:07:26 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-04 06:36:39 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-04 19:25:40 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-04 08:54:10 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
djabanete <djabanete@[  2008-03-04 19:25:21 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 22:12:34 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
djabanete <djabanete@[  2008-03-04 22:17:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-04 22:58:33 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-05 03:50:31 
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Antoine <antoine.from.  2008-03-03 19:27:31 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 05:49:41 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-03 20:51:24 
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will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-04 05:35:52 
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The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-04 06:32:22 
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R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-03 21:03:12 
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Hiedran <hiedran.the.f  2008-03-04 06:43:16 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 22:04:28 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-04 17:03:19 
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=?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBQaWV0aWz  2008-03-05 08:50:32 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-05 02:58:38 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBQaWV0aWz  2008-03-05 16:21:13 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-05 17:24:20 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-05 23:16:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 08:43:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-07 01:27:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-06 06:13:07 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-06 17:19:02 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Ray Dillinger <bear@[E  2008-03-07 11:16:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-07 16:51:05 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-07 14:23:12 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 14:48:24 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 16:03:09 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 19:46:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-05 18:19:15 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-06 09:06:46 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 18:01:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 18:16:01 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-05 18:33:20 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 19:26:50 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 18:29:56 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 20:53:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-05 10:31:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 20:48:59 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 19:20:57 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-06 10:59:30 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
scuzwalla@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-05 21:57:07 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-05 23:32:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Nick <nckmccnnll@[EMAI  2008-03-06 08:01:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 11:11:45 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-06 11:08:44 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-06 09:07:32 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 11:38:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-05 23:55:32 
Balanced play is BORING (was: Another soon-to-be-dead char)
pmcilroy@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-06 07:08:25 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-06 18:26:59 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-07 05:27:53 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-18 15:49:41 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-18 19:07:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-18 17:15:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-21 12:13:04 
Re: redoing character classes (was Another soon-to-be-dead char)
will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-21 22:41:16 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
bbound@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-08 03:04:37 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Roger <rogercnorris@[E  2008-03-12 14:58:35 

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