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Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char

by Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd <zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 6, 2008 at 09:07 AM

On 2008-03-06 08:32:29, pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Mar 5, 10:19 am, Andrew Sidwell  wrote:
> > Timo Pietil=E4 wrote:

> > Formula now is:
> >
> > ((arrowdice * slays) + to_dam) * bow multiplier
> >
> > so firebrand on a heavy crossbow is:
> >         (1d5 * x3 slay) * 4  =3D 1d5 * 12 =3D 12-60
> > with +4 arrows:
> >         ((1d5 * x3 slay) + 4) * 4 =3D 28-76
> > without:
> >         (1d5) * 4 =3D 1d5 * 4 =3D 4-20
> >
> > It used to be:
> >
> > (arrowdice + to_dam) * bow multiplier * slays
> >
> > so firebrand on a heavy crossbow would be:
> >         (1d5) * 4 * 3 =3D 1d5 * 8 =3D 12-60
> > with +4 arrows:
> >         (1d5 + 4) * 4 * 3 =3D 60-108
> > without:
> >         (1d5) * 4 =3D 1d5 * 4 =3D 4-20
> >
> > I'm not at all settled on this.  Other suggestions welcome, as always.
> >
> > > Critical hits should also be tweaked. Currently difference between
> > > good and excellent critical is 5 points *total*, and you can't get
> > > suberb critical at all.
> >
> > This is true.  I was going to have a go at that, but thought that
> > perhaps I should wait to see how the change mentioned above worked
out.
> 
> I was wondering why I could no longer kill Smaug.  I used to value an
> early find of branded ego ammo very highly--it meant I had a chance at
> a few high-value targets, even without a good bow.
> 
> Now I'd be better off with Wounding ammo or just an out-of-depth stack
> of Seeker ammo, which at least has 1d5x4 instead of 1d5x3.

Pretty much.  If you intentionally enchant arrows/bolts (I like to
maintain two
healthy stacks once in early-midgame before statgain and later), this
change
means that unless you can brand your own arrows/bolts branded
non-Seeker/Mithril
bolts aren't worth the slot.

This change does make sense with an Unangband-style monster use of missile
launchers: an orc pit with Black orcs would be very likely to have at
least one
black orc with both an enchanted bow and elemental branded arrows.  Even
with
the player's damage reduction from armor, pre-stat gain with the V3.0.9
damage
calculation that's likely to come in at 50-60 hp/incoming arrow hit,
somewhat
more than a V3.0.9 ARROW_4.
 




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Another soon-to-be-dead char
Josh Hayes <joshno@[EM  2008-03-03 19:33:28 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
David J Richardson <wo  2008-03-04 10:12:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 04:54:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
<a>   2008-03-04 00:07:26 
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The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-04 06:36:39 
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Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-04 08:54:10 
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djabanete <djabanete@[  2008-03-04 19:25:21 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 22:12:34 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
djabanete <djabanete@[  2008-03-04 22:17:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-04 22:58:33 
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Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-05 03:50:31 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 05:49:41 
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Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-03 20:51:24 
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Hiedran <hiedran.the.f  2008-03-04 06:43:16 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 22:04:28 
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Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-04 17:03:19 
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=?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBQaWV0aWz  2008-03-05 08:50:32 
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Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-05 02:58:38 
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=?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBQaWV0aWz  2008-03-05 16:21:13 
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The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-05 17:24:20 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-05 23:16:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 08:43:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-07 01:27:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-06 06:13:07 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-06 17:19:02 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Ray Dillinger <bear@[E  2008-03-07 11:16:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-07 16:51:05 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-07 14:23:12 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 14:48:24 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 16:03:09 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 19:46:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-05 18:19:15 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-06 09:06:46 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 18:01:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 18:16:01 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-05 18:33:20 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 19:26:50 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 18:29:56 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 20:53:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-05 10:31:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 20:48:59 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 19:20:57 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-06 10:59:30 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
scuzwalla@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-05 21:57:07 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-05 23:32:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Nick <nckmccnnll@[EMAI  2008-03-06 08:01:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 11:11:45 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-06 11:08:44 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-06 09:07:32 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 11:38:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-05 23:55:32 
Balanced play is BORING (was: Another soon-to-be-dead char)
pmcilroy@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-06 07:08:25 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-06 18:26:59 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-07 05:27:53 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-18 15:49:41 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-18 19:07:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-18 17:15:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-21 12:13:04 
Re: redoing character classes (was Another soon-to-be-dead char)
will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-21 22:41:16 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
bbound@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-08 03:04:37 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
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