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Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char

by Eddie Grove <eddiegrove@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM

Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd <zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:

> > staff of tele****t self

I should have mentioned that scrolls of tele****t self are a viable
replacement
in the early game or if you somehow manage rConf.

> Non-critical in early game.  Use Phase Door and careful attention to
line of
> sight when moving instead.

It is critical for a non-priest, even a paladin, if you do not play with
connected stairs.  A stack of ?phase sometimes is just not enough.  It is
certainly far more im****tant to me than a +9 bow, even though that was
sufficiently counterintuitive that it took more than 5 deaths to convince
me.

Sometimes the game is about survival.  


I've found that lessons learned from challenge games generally apply well
to
non-challenge games.  I would guess that even with connected stairs you
are
undervaluing _telSelf more than I am overvaluing it, based on that
pattern.


> > 2 rings of damage [everybody else]
> 
> But there's something wrong if I'm actually *using* the rings of damage
when I
> have a Death Bow anywhen through end of stat gain.

It is not uncommon to have 3 blows with a light weapon long before the end
of
stat gain, and most classes can manage it from the start.  If each blow
does
30 points of damage, that outclasses a single 30 point arrow, especially
if
you hit substantially more often in melee.

Sometimes the game is about killing.



You and Timo seem to be telling me that 20K gold at 150', while nice, is
not
that big a deal.  Perhaps you are right.  If so, most non-consumables
superseded
by anything at all likely to show up in the black market quickly becomes
junk.
I think you may have just pushed Andrew over the edge. :)



Eddie
 




 66 Posts in Topic:
Another soon-to-be-dead char
Josh Hayes <joshno@[EM  2008-03-03 19:33:28 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
David J Richardson <wo  2008-03-04 10:12:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 04:54:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
<a>   2008-03-04 00:07:26 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-04 06:36:39 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-04 19:25:40 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-04 08:54:10 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
djabanete <djabanete@[  2008-03-04 19:25:21 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 22:12:34 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
djabanete <djabanete@[  2008-03-04 22:17:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-04 22:58:33 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-05 03:50:31 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Antoine <antoine.from.  2008-03-03 19:27:31 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 05:49:41 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-03 20:51:24 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-04 05:35:52 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-04 06:32:22 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-03 21:03:12 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Hiedran <hiedran.the.f  2008-03-04 06:43:16 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-04 22:04:28 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-04 17:03:19 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBQaWV0aWz  2008-03-05 08:50:32 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-05 02:58:38 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?UTF-8?B?VGltbyBQaWV0aWz  2008-03-05 16:21:13 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-05 17:24:20 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-05 23:16:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 08:43:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Billy Bissette <baines  2008-03-07 01:27:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-06 06:13:07 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-06 17:19:02 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Ray Dillinger <bear@[E  2008-03-07 11:16:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
The Wanderer <inversep  2008-03-07 16:51:05 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-07 14:23:12 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 14:48:24 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 16:03:09 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 19:46:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-05 18:19:15 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-06 09:06:46 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 18:01:43 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 18:16:01 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-05 18:33:20 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 19:26:50 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
CunningGabe <angband@[  2008-03-05 18:29:56 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 20:53:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-05 10:31:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-05 20:48:59 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-05 19:20:57 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Eddie Grove <eddiegrov  2008-03-06 10:59:30 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
scuzwalla@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-05 21:57:07 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-05 23:32:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Nick <nckmccnnll@[EMAI  2008-03-06 08:01:35 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 11:11:45 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-06 11:08:44 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd   2008-03-06 09:07:32 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Timo_Piet  2008-03-06 11:38:29 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-05 23:55:32 
Balanced play is BORING (was: Another soon-to-be-dead char)
pmcilroy@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-06 07:08:25 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
pete m <pmac360@[EMAIL  2008-03-06 18:26:59 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-07 05:27:53 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Andrew Sidwell <takkar  2008-03-18 15:49:41 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Timo_Pieti  2008-03-18 19:07:48 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-18 17:15:49 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
R. Dan Henry <danhenry  2008-03-21 12:13:04 
Re: redoing character classes (was Another soon-to-be-dead char)
will_asher <will_asher  2008-03-21 22:41:16 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
bbound@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-08 03:04:37 
Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char
Roger <rogercnorris@[E  2008-03-12 14:58:35 

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