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Re: Another soon-to-be-dead char

by Andrew Sidwell <takkaria@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 5, 2008 at 06:19 PM

Timo Pietilä wrote:
> CunningGabe wrote:
>> On 2008-03-05 15:48:24, Kenneth 'Bessarion' Boyd <zaimoni@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just source-dived, see what V SVN has done. I assume Andrew knew,
>>>  when thinking through that commit of MAX of launcher multiplier
>>> and ammo multiplier, that he was rendering:
>>> * Slay Animal and Slay Evil branded ammunition junk for all launchers
>>> * All ammunition junk for launchers other than slings and short bows.
>>
>> It's a little counterintuitive, but the MAX is of the launcher 
>> multiplier *from slays and brands* and the ammo multiplier from
>> slays and brands. So as long as your longbow is normal, it's still
>> your ammo which determines that modifier. Your Slay Evil ammo is
>> still useful. (Well, a little. Now slays only apply to base damage
>> instead of base + bonuses.)
> 
> I hope that damage dice for normal ammuition has been increased too. 
> Othervise fire brand would be just tiny 12 points more with heavy 
> crossbow. You make a lot more with melee.
 >
 > Seeker arrows are not so bad after that. Plain seeker arrow would be
 > better than branded normal and mithril is even game.

Formula now is:

((arrowdice * slays) + to_dam) * bow multiplier

so firebrand on a heavy crossbow is:
	(1d5 * x3 slay) * 4  = 1d5 * 12 = 12-60
with +4 arrows:
	((1d5 * x3 slay) + 4) * 4 = 28-76
without:
	(1d5) * 4 = 1d5 * 4 = 4-20


It used to be:

(arrowdice + to_dam) * bow multiplier * slays

so firebrand on a heavy crossbow would be:
	(1d5) * 4 * 3 = 1d5 * 8 = 12-60
with +4 arrows:
	(1d5 + 4) * 4 * 3 = 60-108
without:
	(1d5) * 4 = 1d5 * 4 = 4-20

I'm not at all settled on this.  Other suggestions welcome, as always.

> Critical hits should also be tweaked. Currently difference between
> good and excellent critical is 5 points *total*, and you can't get
> suberb critical at all.

This is true.  I was going to have a go at that, but thought that 
perhaps I should wait to see how the change mentioned above worked out.

-- 
Andrew Sidwell
http://rephial.org/
 




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