On Feb 5, 9:58 pm, "TragicTheGarnerer" <tragicthegarnererMA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > IIRC it is so bad with jackals because Adom calculates the uber-effect
> > based
> > on the creation propability of a monster. However this means just the
> > propability of a monster being created on a certain level - no
wilderness
> > encounters and summoners are taken into account. Thus this game
feature is
> > far more often perceived with summoned monsters that normally appear
quite
> > rare in dungeons just like jackals.
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> > rgra bug list:http://www.geocities.com/adombugs
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> I think you're absolutely right and you provide a great explanation.
Like
> you said, only creation propability and no summoners or wilderness
> encounters are taken into account and no one said that they are. But
rarely
> will you see a hundred jackals being summoned by a single jackalware or
> spiders by a single dark elf in a dungeon level( you'll already manage
to
> kill him) while it is quite probable that in random encounter you'll end
up
> with two jackalweres summoning dozens upon dozens of jackals before
you'll
> even see them because of the huge open area. And you end up with 150
jackals
> killed in a single fight. So the next jackal you find, whether he's
> generated randomly somewere in the dungeon or he's summoned, will be
quite
> formidable.
>
> That's probably what bothers new and unexperienced players. They tend to
> travel a lot between dungeons through wilderness, not trying to minimize
the
> time spent in the wild, and end up with more than a few of this
encounters.
Putting aside that newbie does not have map memorized and thus does
not know
shortest routes and eventually spends extra time travelling to find
some locations.
You spend a lot of time travelling wilderness thourghout the in game.
And a LOT
during early stages. Whole "Kranach" quest requires one to roam
wilderness randomly
in hopes of his spawn.
Even if you travel minimal time, you still risk that 100-jackals
encounter anyway so
this is not issue of newbies playing wrong way.
It really seems like design mistake.
UBER effect is in game for reason thou, but there are different
appraches on how to stop
player progressing on easy monsters (if we want to, but only MMO
requires this kind of
player limiting IMO): worse loot drops, less xp/weapon marks, etc..
Another approach would be to cap UBER effect based on danger level:
jackals would be
maximally as strongr as strongest monster you can encounter in that
dungeon level/wilderness tile.
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