Re: Uber Jackals?

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> IIRC it is so bad with jackals because Adom calculates the uber-effect 
> based
> on the creation propability of a monster. However this means just the
> propability of a monster being created on a certain level - no
wilderness
> encounters and summoners are taken into account. Thus this game feature
is
> far more often perceived with summoned monsters that normally appear
quite
> rare in dungeons just like jackals.
> -- 
> rgra bug list: http://www.geocities.com/adombugs

I think you're absolutely right and you provide a great explanation. Like 
you said, only creation propability and no summoners or wilderness 
encounters are taken into account and no one said that they are. But
rarely 
will you see a hundred jackals being summoned by a single jackalware or 
spiders by a single dark elf in a dungeon level( you'll already manage to 
kill him) while it is quite probable that in random encounter you'll end
up 
with two jackalweres summoning dozens upon dozens of jackals before you'll

even see them because of the huge open area. And you end up with 150
jackals 
killed in a single fight. So the next jackal you find, whether he's 
generated randomly somewere in the dungeon or he's summoned, will be quite

formidable.

That's probably what bothers new and unexperienced players. They tend to 
travel a lot between dungeons through wilderness, not trying to minimize
the 
time spent in the wild, and end up with more than a few of this
encounters.