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Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?

by mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 23, 2007 at 10:43 AM

Brent <digital.brent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Dec 20, 8:57 pm, mcv <mcv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Brent <digital.br...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > On Dec 19, 4:35 am, mcv <mcv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> This group just keeps getting more deserted. Should I take this as
>> >> a sign that cyberpunk as a genre is dead? That'd be a shame, because
>> >> I've got all the new SR4 books, and I kinda like the changes.
>>
>> > There was this underground movie that came out which sort of revived
>> > it, perhaps you saw it? It was called 'The Matrix'.
>>
>> Has that really revived it? The movie was a big hit, but I haven't
really
>> seen that influence the cyberpunk genre much.
> 
> The latest release of the shadowrun has made deckers obsolete, instead
> opting for saturated wireless network, named the matrix, to which
> people directly log onto via their internal cybernetic datajacks.
> Granted they had 'the matrix' prior to the movie release, there is
> still mountains of influence evident in the new edition.

I'm afraid I've got the completely opposite view. The new version made
deckers more useful (and renamed them hackers), by making the Matrix
(which Shadowrun had long before the movie showed up) more up-to-date
with modern technology. It has very little to do with the movie, which
features a matrix which has nothing whatsoever to do with Shadowrun's
matrix.

> Apart from that, there are dozens of matrix sin offs and rip offs
> which have spawned since it's initial release. It is one of the most
> referenced movies in comedy.

I don't deny it's an influential movie, but has it really revived
cyberpunk in any way? I think it had a much bigger impact on wire-fu
movies and games. Because in the end, The Matrix is just a new kind
of wire-fu movie, and not a cyberpunk movie at all.


mcv.
-- 
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A very powerful tool, but not the only tool. And if only that which
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of human experience would be not-real.                  -- Zachriel
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
Is cyberpunk finally dead?
mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2007-12-18 17:35:03 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
"Technomancer"   2007-12-18 18:10:49 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
Brent <digital.brent@[  2007-12-19 04:41:29 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2007-12-20 09:57:41 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
Brent <digital.brent@[  2007-12-22 18:28:47 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2007-12-23 10:43:29 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2007-12-29 17:29:03 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
mcv <mcvmcv@[EMAIL PRO  2007-12-30 15:44:44 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
TK <tad.kelson@[EMAIL   2008-01-05 12:02:58 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
"David Formosa (aka   2008-02-12 20:18:51 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
martinkhall@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-02-27 16:53:20 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
Deric Bernier <droc@[E  2008-03-03 16:42:03 
Re: Is cyberpunk finally dead?
Tetsubo <tetsubo@[EMAI  2008-03-04 07:50:46 

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