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Re: Good initiative mechanics?

by gleichman <fox1_217@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 25, 2008 at 11:15 AM

On Apr 25, 11:20=A0am, "Rick Pikul" <rwpi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> (2ed DMG)

You said 1st edition D&D, never played 2nd. Never would want to.


> That entirely depends on how stunning, (or whatever), is determined.
=A0Fo=
r
> instance, basing stun resistance on a statistic that tends to be higher
> in PCs and major NPCs.

Which doesn't solve the problem originally detailed now does it.


> I have also seen games that give a very high chance of significant
penalty=

> resulting from an attack.

Which greatly expands the im****tance of Initiative. It also introduces
a serious whiff factor when applied to PCs, which will in most cases
result in serious pushback. Players don't like too much whiff,
especially in ***l HP systems where already require multiple hits to
do anything.

There is no such thing as a free lunch. You do anything to correct the
problem, you cause other ones.

Either embrace the natural results of expanding HP systems, or abandon
them.
 




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Good initiative mechanics?
Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-16 20:12:46 
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Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-03-16 22:45:28 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-16 23:26:14 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-17 22:11:18 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-27 21:05:49 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-29 12:27:35 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-29 13:01:07 
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Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-29 19:43:07 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-03-30 00:59:08 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-04-02 22:44:54 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-25 03:53:26 
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"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-25 16:20:49 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-17 07:17:16 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-18 08:01:20 
Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanics?)
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2008-03-19 11:00:27 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-20 08:40:21 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-20 14:06:39 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-20 08:55:35 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context
Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-03-20 17:45:23 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-20 11:39:32 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-18 17:08:03 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-19 08:57:31 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-19 07:31:12 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-19 20:48:21 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-19 21:34:42 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-20 10:02:03 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-26 14:10:12 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-25 11:15:31 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-27 14:04:14 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-27 14:33:37 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-27 17:37:43 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-28 08:23:49 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-28 09:22:30 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-29 08:00:50 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-29 08:04:57 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-30 07:09:21 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-31 09:32:02 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-31 10:51:13 
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psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-01 15:31:29 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-04-01 15:44:44 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-01 18:10:29 
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psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-01 23:15:12 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-02 04:36:01 
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Magister <magister@[EM  2008-04-22 17:44:23 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-24 05:03:24 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-24 09:17:00 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-04-24 14:45:02 
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Magister <magister@[EM  2008-03-29 14:28:33 
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psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-03 12:48:21 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-03 17:14:07 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-04 09:57:57 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-04 16:29:38 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-24 15:39:50 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-25 06:46:00 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-26 03:14:46 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
tussock <scrub@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 04:10:33 

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