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Re: Good initiative mechanics?

by gleichman <fox1_217@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 25, 2008 at 03:53 AM

On Apr 25, 1:46=A0am, "Rick Pikul" <rwpi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> AD&D had predeclared actions, I find it strange that you don't remember
> that. =A0

Likely because no one I've ever encountered actually played AD&D as
written.

Reading the Player's Manual now, I can see why I've never seen anyone
predeclare. It never states that actions are pre-declared, only
implies it in the combat example. That implication may only be a
writing style choice rather and a detail of the sequence.

Even the DM Guide is unclear on this point, as the turn sequence does
not specify a pre-declare phase which always appeared in the wargames
of the time that used that method.

So, nope. Don't didn't play it that way. Wouldn't play it that way
even if I had read the books today.


> It doesn't matter if you would use the class of solutions suggested,
that
> such a class was suggested is all that was required to disprove your
> dismissal of the example.


Give me a freakin' break.

Someone wins a lottery is no reason for any rational person to burn
hundreds of dollars a week on lottery tickets. Or even one buck a
week. You do know what "exception that proves the rule" means don't
you?

> Another idea along these lines that comes to my mind is the possibility
of=

> getting results, (like stunning the target), which will hamper the
targets=

> next action by some absolute amount. =A0If you don't know that you have
> stunned the target, and there is a reasonable chance of getting such a
> result, there is a benefit in spreading the party's fire.

Stun rates would have to be too high in order to offset the advantage
of focused fire. As a result players would likely rebel when it was
apply against them.
 




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Good initiative mechanics?
Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-16 20:12:46 
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Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-03-16 22:45:28 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-16 23:26:14 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-17 22:11:18 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-27 21:05:49 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-29 12:27:35 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-03-29 13:01:07 
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Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-29 19:43:07 
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Tim Little <tim@[EMAIL  2008-03-30 00:59:08 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-04-02 22:44:54 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-25 03:53:26 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-25 16:20:49 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-17 07:17:16 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-18 08:01:20 
Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanics?)
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2008-03-19 11:00:27 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-20 08:40:21 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-20 14:06:39 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-20 08:55:35 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context
Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-03-20 17:45:23 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-20 11:39:32 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-18 17:08:03 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-19 08:57:31 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-19 07:31:12 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-19 20:48:21 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-19 21:34:42 
Re: Replies, quoting, and context (was: Good initiative mechanic
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2008-03-20 10:02:03 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-26 14:10:12 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-25 11:15:31 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-27 14:04:14 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-27 14:33:37 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-27 17:37:43 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-28 08:23:49 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-28 09:22:30 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-29 08:00:50 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-29 08:04:57 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-03-30 07:09:21 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-31 09:32:02 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-03-31 10:51:13 
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psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-01 15:31:29 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-04-01 15:44:44 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-01 18:10:29 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-01 23:15:12 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-02 04:36:01 
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Magister <magister@[EM  2008-04-22 17:44:23 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-24 05:03:24 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-24 09:17:00 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-04-24 14:45:02 
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Magister <magister@[EM  2008-03-29 14:28:33 
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psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-03 12:48:21 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-03 17:14:07 
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psychohist <psychohist  2008-04-04 09:57:57 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-04-04 16:29:38 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-24 15:39:50 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-25 06:46:00 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
"Rick Pikul" &l  2008-04-26 03:14:46 
Re: Good initiative mechanics?
tussock <scrub@[EMAIL   2008-05-03 04:10:33 

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