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Re: Star Wars: Armour and damage: straw poll

by Peter Knutsen <peter@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 9, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Simon Smith wrote:
>           Peter Knutsen <peter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>It seems to me that the real problem is how very *coarsegrained* the 
>>system is, for those situations where plusses don't matter. You end up 
>>having only five or six values, from 1d6 to 5d6, and maybe up to 6d6.
>>
>>AFAIK the actual WEG system is 3 times as finegrained, with the scale 
>>going 1d6, 1d6+1, 1d6+2, 2d6, 2d6+1, 2d6+2, 3d6...
> 
> Yes, but you're always guaranteed at least 1D6 on each side, or you'd
have
> nothing to roll, so there's always going to be a die to cancel out.
Hence I
> omitted mention of the pluses to try to make the explanations a bit
shorter.

I thought you had made  deliberate decision to treat 2d6+1 and 2d6+2 the 
same as 2d6, for the purpose of damage and armour penetration?

> Funny that the system's considered coarse when a lot of other games
never
> went beyond using 3-18 stat stat ranges rolled on 3D6.

It isn't the roll mechanic that is coarsegrained, in the sense of the 
outcome range, but rather the trait scale; the scale that is used to 
describe and define characters and non-living game world objects.

d20 offers 16 different trait values (actually more, since values higher 
than 18 are very possible), whereas 1d6 to 5d6 offers only 5 different 
trait values (although you get 13 if you use the intermediate values 
1d6+1, 1d6+2 and so forth up to 4d6+2).

I'm not convinced that we need as many 16 different trait values, but I 
sincerely believe that we need more than 5, in order to cover all of 
human variety.

-- 
Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org
 




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Star Wars: Armour and damage: straw poll
Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-05 20:58:33 
Re: Star Wars: Armour and damage: straw poll
"gleichman" <  2008-02-06 21:40:00 
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Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-02-08 04:03:53 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-08 21:48:20 
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Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-02-09 00:54:30 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-09 22:49:29 
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Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-02-10 00:40:07 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-10 00:04:34 
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Indiana Joe <indianajo  2008-02-09 23:29:04 
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Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-02-10 22:30:00 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-10 22:50:34 
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Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2008-02-11 10:17:13 
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"gleichman" <  2008-02-11 16:50:25 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-09 22:29:15 
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David Alex Lamb <dalam  2008-02-10 14:00:18 
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Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2008-02-10 22:19:21 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-11 08:41:07 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-11 08:51:22 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-11 09:17:53 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-11 09:22:16 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-02-11 09:58:43 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-11 10:53:31 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-02-11 12:26:49 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-11 12:57:41 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-02-12 14:24:59 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-13 07:43:18 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-02-13 08:26:14 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2008-02-13 11:37:30 
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DougL <lampert.doug@[E  2008-02-07 15:14:56 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-07 23:51:32 
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Simon Smith <simon_smi  2008-02-11 00:01:36 
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tussock <scrub@[EMAIL   2008-02-10 22:42:50 

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