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Re: Threefold

by John Morrow <morrow@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 15, 2007 at 12:00 AM

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, psychohist wrote:
> I think, however, that most of the people who objected to existence of
> the model itself simply didn't believe that there were people with
> preferences different from their own.

I'm not sure that's true.  Bruce Baugh, for example, was a pretty vocal 
detractor of the Threefold yet he said he found Glenn Blacow's model 
somewhat useful.  In retrospect, with some experience arguing against 
another model as an outsider (the Forge's GNS), I think the problem is 
that it really is difficult to discuss the problems of a model or concepts

that don't fit the model well when people insist on framing everything in 
terms of that model.  I never grasped out frustrating and annoying that 
was as an insider in the Threefold, but understood it after arguing as an 
outsider to the GNS.

Henry Ford said of the Model T, "The customer can have any color he
wants so long as it's black."  When a model like the Threefold or GNS
take over, it becomes a lot like, "You can talk about any type of game
you want as long as it's one of these types."  And if what you want to
talk about doesn't fit those types or the distinctions between those
types don't illustrate the distinction that you want to make, you are
out of luck.

And to make it clear, I think all of this is often entirely unintentional.

John Morrow
 




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GM types by Georgios
Ben Finney <ben@[EMAIL  2007-07-28 11:46:56 
Re: GM types by Georgios
"gleichman" <  2007-07-27 22:32:18 
Re: GM types by Georgios
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2007-07-28 22:23:20 
Re: GM types by Georgios
"gleichman" <  2007-07-28 09:13:51 
Re: Threefold
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-08-14 23:52:55 
Re: Threefold
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-08-15 00:00:32 
Re: GM types by Georgios
psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-06 12:02:03 
Re: GM types by Georgios
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2007-08-07 09:56:04 
Re: GM types by Georgios
Erol K. Bayburt <ErolB  2007-08-06 22:27:49 
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"gleichman" <  2007-08-07 06:49:45 
Re: GM types by Georgios
psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-07 07:23:14 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-07 07:52:09 
Re: GM types by Georgios
George W Harris <gharr  2007-08-07 15:56:40 
Re: Threefold
psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-09 12:46:29 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-09 13:21:07 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-09 15:57:15 
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Russell Wallace <russe  2007-08-10 05:19:50 
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Beowulf Bolt <abd.al-h  2007-08-10 14:28:56 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-10 07:51:38 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-10 10:45:42 
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"gleichman" <  2007-08-10 15:13:09 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-12 16:23:52 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-14 06:49:46 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-15 07:45:48 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-15 09:56:38 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-15 10:19:28 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-15 12:16:04 
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Beowulf Bolt <abd.al-h  2007-08-15 19:28:24 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-15 12:47:35 
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George W Harris <gharr  2007-08-26 04:18:16 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-15 13:26:54 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-15 13:51:25 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-15 13:52:22 
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George W Harris <gharr  2007-08-26 04:15:45 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-15 15:39:56 
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"gleichman" <  2007-08-15 18:33:17 
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psychohist <psychohist  2007-08-29 14:52:07 
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"Rick Pikul" &l  2007-08-30 04:25:40 
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gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-08-30 08:28:42 

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