Re: GM-controlled Bad Luck points

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:15:51 -0500, "gleichman"
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> wrote:

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>"Erol K. Bayburt" <ErolB1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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>> You rang?
>
>
>Not really, I thought you killed filed me.

I had. You're out of my killfile, at least tem****arily, because I saw
you quoted upthread sounding like you had recovered from the Brain
Eater. 

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>> 1. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss players' sharing in the
>> designer's goal. After all, in Age of Heroes "the mechanics exist for
>> a designer goal that means nothing to the normal player" i.e. a system
>> strongly sup****ts gamist goals and severely rebukes any lack of player
>> tactical skill.
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>I agree about AoH, and have often said it was a horrid game design-
although 
>for a different reason. The die and combat mechanics are very simple and 
>transparent.
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>Poor and concealing dice mechanics are never a valid gaming style (I have

>seen one assertion sup****ting the concept that it is, but it wasn't made
in 
>this thread and is better suited by removing visible die mechanics 
>completely). Instead they are selected for "being different", reasons 
>unknown to the designer, or impossible claims of simulation such as Simon

>makes. In Simon's case not only is the goal foolish, it isn't even
achived.
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>> As I understand it, this group is all about discussing and
>> understanding gaming viewpoints that one would never ever tolerate in
>> a game one played in or GMed oneself.
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>I've reached the conclusion that group goal died some time ago, and never

>really existed in the first place. Lip service was certainly paid to it,
but 
>it ran in very limited directions- mostly towards Mary.
>

OK, I was mistaken about you being recovered from the Brain Eater.
Back into the killfile you go. 

-- 
Erol K. Bayburt
ErolB1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]