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Re: Introduction of newbie players: Success!

by sgam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 4, 2007 at 09:32 PM

On May 26, 11:22 pm, Peter Knutsen <p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> My preference is for "competetive storytelling", since that's what is
> actually going on between the denizens of the campaign world.
> Sauron
> wants to tell a story about how he achieves world domination. Gandalf
> wants to tell a story about how Middle Earth is saved from Evil(tm),
> and
> so forth. Since we have disagreement, the characters must "game it out"
> to see who wins and thus gets to tell the story he wants.
>

Whilst I like that idea, I don't think that that's a great model for
introducing newbies to roleplaying.  A more outgoing player is likely
to hog the limelight more when dealing with inexperienced players,
IMHO.
>
>
<snip>

> > The adventure and rules were fairly familiar to me, but I only had a
> > week to prepare; it was either that or wait for a month or more, and I
> > wanted instead to get these people while the interest was still
> > fresh.
>
>
> So here goes (and keep in mind, this is grounded in traditional
> roleplaying gaming, meaning fairly heavy in combat and other physical
> action):
>
> 1. Combat. Specifically ranged combat and unarmed combat, because
> sometimes engagements initiate at range, and sometimes you have your
> weapons taken away. Melee weapon combat is useful, but much less so than
> ranged and unarmed.
>
> 2. Stealth. Getting to and from places, meaning skills such as Hide,
> Move Silently, Climbing and Lockpicking. Skills for dealing with traps
> may also be useful, even in a modern setting.
>
> 3. Investigative skills. Highly useful to find out what's going on. This
> deals not only with skills such as Acting and Disguise, and Research,
> but also non-skill traits such as Contacts. Social skills also belong to
> this category, both those skills that let you befriend people, and those
> skills that lets you extract information from people (anything from
> Language skills to Interrogation and Detect Lies).
>
> 4. Medical, although this depends much on how useful medical skills are
> in the chosen rules system. I try hard to make them useful in Modern
> Action RPG, and it seems to me as if GURPS 4E also tries to make them at
> least slightly useful. If nothing else, a Poisons skill can be good to
have.
>
> ... I think that's it. Perhaps make it a list of five: Ranged Combat,
> Unarmed Combat, Stealth/Intrusion, Investigation (and Medical if it's
> game-mechanically useful, or if you know from experience that the GM
> will *make* medical skills useful).

For a *modern* game, a techie/mechanic can be much more usefull than a
medic - there's not much a medic can do for a gun wound, on the spot.
A techhead might be usefull for the stealth stuff, or winging it with
the environment - moving a crane, hacking a security system, fixing an
old boat to escape the island, etc. etc.  So for modern, I sustitute
"techie" to take the place of the traditional healer.
>
<snip>

> Also, in general, the trick of "recent historical" roleplaying gaming,
> which probably means anything more than 12 years ago, is in "doing the
> time machine" well. I don't have a whole lot of ideas yet, but I know
> I'll need to include a section on it in the Modern Action RPG GMing
> advice chapter. How to take the players back into the near past, and
> convey to them the feel of the setting, the attitudes and the most
> im****tant issues.

I think period music is really good for this.  And in the case of the
'60's and 70's, a lava lamp is a must. :-)
>
When I last introduced a newbie, I pre-made the characters, including
hers (a typical ranger type in a fantasy game), and made sure that she
was the only person who could solve a couple of the problems presented
- tracking the bad guys, looking out for quicksand, etc.  and that
meant that the player felt she played an invaluable part in the
party's success.  The actual role-playing she took to like a duck to
water, fortunately.

Cheers,
Steve

Thanks, Ben, for the OP. Handy stuff.
 




 6 Posts in Topic:
[LONG] Introduction of newbie players: Success!
Ben Finney <ben@[EMAIL  2007-05-06 23:49:33 
Re: Introduction of newbie players: Success!
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-05-07 11:47:12 
Re: Introduction of newbie players: Success!
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2007-05-08 11:06:53 
Re: Introduction of newbie players: Success!
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-05-08 08:16:26 
Re: [LONG] Introduction of newbie players: Success!
Peter Knutsen <peter@[  2007-05-26 15:22:27 
Re: Introduction of newbie players: Success!
sgam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-06-04 21:32:41 

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