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Re: Lethality of events

by John Morrow <morrow@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2007 at 12:35 AM

On Thu, 10 May 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
> What differences, significant to this thread, are you thinking of
> between GM and player character ****trayal?

Issues of time spent doing it, distance from the character, whether 
decisions are made by thinking like the character or thinking about the 
character, etc.  There are some NPCs I think like and others that I think 
about.  The really nasty NPCs, I tend to think about, not as.

> The megalomaniacal mastermind, the manipulative schemer, the righteous
> holy man -- none of them are necessarily greedy or thuggish, and any
> of them can be ****trayed such that we perceive them as evil.

I don't see a any of those being necessarily evil if they are not also 
casually murderous or cruel.

> In both cases, it was challenging and entertaining for all
> concerned. The players found depths of emotion and psychological
> dilemma they'd not explored before, and everyone agreed it was far
> more interesting than if it had not happened. We talked about the
> ramifications of decisions made by the characters for months
> afterward.

In either of the cases, did the evil character succeed or did they meet a 
tragic end?

Remember, a key component of the Hays Code was not that movies couldn't 
depict evil but that they couldn't show the bad guys winning.  I mention 
the Hays Code because, in many ways, I think it captures many of the 
distinctions Brian was trying to make.

The Hays Code, or The Motion Picture Production Code of 1930 can be found 
here:

http://www.mutoworld.com/HaysCode.htm

Please note that I am not talking about nor endorsing every jot of the 
Hays Code, at least some of which is a product of its time.  For example, 
I think the provision, "Miscegenation (*** relation****ps between the white

and black races) is forbidden," is pretty despicable and do not endorse it

in any way.  I'm talking more about the general provisions and the idea 
that movies should not sway the sympathies of the audience "to the side of

crime, wrongdoing, evil or sin."

John Morrow
 




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Re: Lethality of events
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-05-01 12:56:29 
Re: Lethality of events
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2007-05-01 16:35:54 
Re: Lethality of events
Will in New Haven <bil  2007-05-06 16:45:31 
Re: Lethality of events
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2007-05-06 21:43:36 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-06 20:49:01 
Re: Lethality of events
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2007-05-07 09:40:46 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-07 07:39:34 
Re: Lethality of events
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2007-05-07 09:40:46 
Re: Standards of behaviour
Will in New Haven <bil  2007-05-09 10:04:39 
Re: Standards of behaviour
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-05-09 10:13:07 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-09 21:50:14 
Re: Lethality of events
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2007-05-10 09:31:04 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-09 21:56:48 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-09 22:00:12 
Re: Lethality of events
Gary Johnson <zzjohnsg  2007-05-10 13:46:20 
Re: Standards of behaviour
Will in New Haven <bil  2007-05-10 07:51:50 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-11 00:35:39 
Re: Lethality of events
Ed Chauvin IV <edcfour  2007-05-11 04:39:12 
Re: Lethality of events
R. G. 'Stumpy' Marsh <  2007-05-11 20:39:15 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-11 12:14:13 
Re: Standards of behaviour
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-05-11 12:27:00 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-12 10:12:34 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-12 10:23:39 
Re: Standards of behaviour
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-24 19:47:11 
Re: Lethality of events
Will in New Haven <bil  2007-05-09 18:25:38 
Re: Lethality of events
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2007-05-10 12:00:13 
Re: Lethality of events
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2007-05-10 13:53:21 
Re: Lethality of events
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-05-10 06:51:17 
Re: Lethality of events
Ben Finney <bignose+ha  2007-05-11 19:44:50 
Re: Standards of behaviour
psychohist <psychohist  2007-05-23 19:27:40 
Re: Standards of behaviour
dalamb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-05-24 03:41:36 
Re: Lethality of events
gleichman <fox1_217@[E  2007-05-07 06:51:25 
Re: Lethality of events
psychohist <psychohist  2007-05-10 22:33:18 
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"gleichman" <  2007-05-11 05:51:55 
Re: Lethality of events
John Morrow <morrow@[E  2007-05-11 01:29:05 
Re: Lethality of events
Beowulf Bolt <abd.al-h  2007-05-11 13:50:36 

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