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Re: what is it about angels?

by "Will in New Haven" <bill.reich@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 31, 2007 at 09:09 AM

On Jan 31, 11:09 am, mkkuh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Mary K.
Kuhner) wrote:
> In article <1170252376.875993.75...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Will in New Haven <bill.re...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >Of course, why they should KNOW that they can't take on
> >the angel succesfully, if that is what they want to do, is another
> >story. Encounters that are so transparent that the outcome is known to
> >the players are not my cuppa tea.
>
> Because they're professionals.
>
> If you are a professional dragon-hunter, you may know that old black
> dragons have skin so tough it will turn any arrow.  If all you have
> are bows, and it is on the wing, you can see that you will lose.  I
> don't have a problem with this; and I can't play someone as a
professional
> dragon-hunter who is consistently ignorant about this sort of thing.
> I just can't believe in such a character.

I couldn't either. If there are professional dragon-hunters, then
dragons are common enough and well-known enought that the information,
while probably not available to the general public, is available to
the pros. There are no campaigns that I know of with professional
ANGEL-hunters. Angel encounters are singular events.

The closest things in my gaming experience to an angel encounter are
some encounters with avatars (one avatar per encounter) of a powerful
god. Even the priest (of the same god) in the party would not know if
this were a seeming called up by a priest, in which case the group
might kick its butt, or a sending by the god himself, in which case
they had almost no chance.

>
> Here, the GM assumed he could trust the game-system's ranking, so
> was led into making statements about world history and PC understanding
> which turned out to be obviously false--not because he had some good
> in-game reason for making them false, but because the system ranking
> was spectacularly (IMO) broken.

Sounds broken but, elsethread, Mr. Boff seems to have come up with a
very good explanation. Which doesn't mean that it isn't broken but
it's broken the way the designers wanted to break it.

>
> If the PCs had known they couldn't win, they might have done the exact
> same things, but player and GM would have been a lot less distracted
> and put off by the sudden discovery that things weren't what they were
> supposed to be.

Armed with the "Angels are always bigger than they appear in the
mirror" warning, I should imagine things will go smoother from now
on.

Will in New Haven

--


>
> Mary Kuhner mkkuh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 




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what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-30 18:29:03 
Re: what is it about angels?
"gleichman" <  2007-01-30 13:01:06 
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"gleichman" <  2007-01-30 13:11:23 
Re: what is it about angels?
"Will in New Haven&q  2007-01-30 11:50:38 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-30 21:59:48 
Re: what is it about angels?
delrio@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-02-06 13:02:54 
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"Will in New Haven&q  2007-01-30 17:30:29 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 16:02:43 
Re: what is it about angels?
Irina Rempt <irina@[EM  2007-01-31 23:18:23 
Re: what is it about angels?
"psychohist" &l  2007-01-30 20:37:56 
Re: what is it about angels?
Erol K. Bayburt <ErolB  2007-01-31 00:28:33 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 20:29:29 
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"gleichman" <  2007-01-31 16:55:04 
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"gleichman" <  2007-01-31 06:42:20 
Re: what is it about angels?
"Will in New Haven&q  2007-01-31 06:06:16 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 16:09:35 
Re: what is it about angels?
Arthur Boff <arthur.bo  2007-01-31 15:48:53 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 16:16:49 
Re: what is it about angels?
Arthur Boff <arthur.bo  2007-01-31 16:40:32 
Re: what is it about angels?
dalamb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-02-02 02:48:57 
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"psychohist" &l  2007-01-31 07:55:21 
Re: what is it about angels?
Erol K. Bayburt <ErolB  2007-01-31 12:27:16 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 20:47:16 
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"gleichman" <  2007-01-31 08:07:29 
Re: what is it about angels?
"Will in New Haven&q  2007-01-31 09:09:48 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 20:56:14 
Re: what is it about angels?
"psychohist" &l  2007-01-31 10:56:11 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 19:09:51 
Re: what is it about angels?
Arthur Boff <arthur.bo  2007-02-01 15:13:18 
Re: what is it about angels?
"Will in New Haven&q  2007-01-31 12:34:16 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-01-31 20:57:08 
Re: what is it about angels?
Gary Johnson <zzjohnsg  2007-02-01 09:02:13 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-02-01 00:16:25 
Re: what is it about angels?
Gary Johnson <zzjohnsg  2007-02-01 12:14:30 
Re: what is it about angels?
Arthur Boff <arthur.bo  2007-02-01 18:00:01 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-02-01 20:36:01 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-02-03 02:23:27 
Re: what is it about angels?
Erol K. Bayburt <ErolB  2007-02-02 21:31:40 
Re: what is it about angels?
"psychohist" &l  2007-01-31 18:18:13 
Re: what is it about angels?
"DougL" <lam  2007-02-02 07:04:54 
Re: what is it about angels?
"Blackheart" &l  2007-02-03 01:15:22 
Re: what is it about angels?
Arthur Boff <arthur.bo  2007-02-04 16:17:11 
Re: what is it about angels?
"psychohist" &l  2007-02-04 15:31:34 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-02-04 23:57:53 
Re: what is it about angels?
Erol K. Bayburt <ErolB  2007-02-04 18:42:57 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-02-05 20:39:28 
Re: what is it about angels?
"Will in New Haven&q  2007-02-05 12:54:48 
Re: what is it about angels?
mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-02-05 21:34:02 

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