Re: session re****t

In article <77ufr2t58c7pmosug6317ueeeqc9q4pbfb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Erol K. Bayburt  <ErolB1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>An idea that's been bubbling away in the back of my mind is that
>paladins (and rangers) should get spontaneous casting rather than
>prepared spells. 

We implemented this (tested only with paladin so far).  It does help 
a little, and certainly does not seem unbalancing.  But I think 
explicit per-day or at-will powers might be even better.

>Of course this doesn't help with the problem that 1st and 2nd level
>spells just aren't a big deal for 10th level characters in 3.5. 

Yes.  A very few more-powerful spells have crept onto those lists
at low level (Lesser Restoration at Paladin 1st, Suggestion at
Bard 2nd, for example) but that's a poor way to address the basic
problem.  

It's also painfully clear that paladins and similar make crappy
casters:  they cast at half their level which ruins their durations
and their chance to go through SR, the spells (even if powerful) have
low nominal level so saves are too easy against them, and they
can't afford to take things like Concentration or Spell Penetration.

Charis just casts Bull's Strength over and over, with occasional
forays into Bless and Bless Weapon.  It doesn't make her feel any
more holy:  it's just a bookkeeping nuisance, frankly.  At least
as a free caster she can occasionally get some use out of Lesser
Restoration etc.  But the spell list, on top of its other faults,
is quite bland.  And she is mysteriously unable, despite being
Lawful Good, to deal with an enemy which requires Lawful weapons
to hit--a priest could do it, but she can't.

You could build a better holy warrior using cleric as the base 
class; you might even do okay with an even-split fighter/cleric.
(At least, if you can resist the temptation to play cleric
as a kind of mage, which is what I tend to do; in that case, the
fighter/cleric doesn't work well at all.)

I wonder what it is about this conception which causes it not to
work out well.

Mary Kuhner mkkuhner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]