Re: session re****t

On Jan 22, 12:20 pm, mkkuh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Mary K.
Kuhner) wrote:

> My first _City of the Spider Queen_ game was almost completely
determined
> by the mis-leveling of one of the angels (planetar? solar? I forget)
which
> allows the PCs to summon it with a modestly powerful spell, even though
> it's much more powerful than that.  (A 16th level cleric is CR16.  I
don't
> know how something with the full spellcasting of a 16th level cleric,
> plus a whole bunch more special powers, could be CR15.  I guess some of
> the AD&D game designers think of clerical casting as useless, but that
> has not been my experience.)

I remember that one. 3.5 a Planetar casts as Cleric 17 and is CR16.
This is I believe the same as 3.0.

The presumption would have to be that lack of gear based special powers
and 3 fewer HD make it weaker than an actual level 16 Cleric. This is
perfectly reasonable if you note that it's gear doesn't include a Holy
Symbol, and thus that it can't cast 90%+ of those spells :). Otherwise
it's garbage. The CR is obviously off.

(IIRC when this came up on the D&D group someone did defend the CR as
reasonable, but then someone defended the CR of the 3.5 5-headed hydra
as CR 4 as reasonable too.)

DougL