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by Eric Hunter <hunter90@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 9, 2008 at 11:47 PM

Chris Babcock wrote:
> A no press game ends in a Turkish solo in F1925M. Here are the maps:
> 
> http://www.floc.net/observer.py?judge=USAK&game=fge00003&page=game
> 
> This is England's End of Game statement: 
> 
> ----------------
> 
> The last move of the game featured the most
> dishonorable win I have ever witnessed.

Turkey made an unsup****ted move into an English Center
that England had walked out of.  Not much tactical
brilliance, and foolish on England's part, but not in
any way dishonorable.

> After seeing what France did to you in Spring
> 1922 (move in on your supply centers when you had
> retreated, clearly signaling a 3-way draw),

Um no, when a 16 Center Power pulls back, she's not
signaling a desire for a three-way.  She's trying
to entice the stalemating Powers to begin fighting
to open up a Solo shot, which is exactly what
happened.  This is England's first mistake.

> you should have known better how that is not the way to win!

The 18 Turkish Centers suggest that this was one way
to win.

> I could have won the game had I moved in on you right
> then, but decided that this would have been
> dishonorable.

Well, then this was England's second mistake.  If he
could have Soloed, then he should have.

> Instead, I chose and succeeded in puni****ng France
> for the uns****tsmanlike conduct 

Taking Centers from your opponents is not uns****tsmanlike
conduct; it is the object of the game.

> A win should be the result of brilliant play or
> an opponent's mistake, and not moving in on a player
> when he is unfairly down.

And Turkey won by taking advantage of England and
France's mistakes.

> even in Diplomacy where lying and stabbing are
> part of the game, there is a place for honor.

That may be, though it is certainly debatable, but
Turkey did nothing dishonorable, she simply made
the appropriate moves to win the game.  Her efforts
were greatly simplified by England's mistakes, but
England himself says that that is one way to a Solo.

Eric.
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Comments on EOG...
Chris Babcock <cbabcoc  2008-04-09 19:43:35 
Re: Comments on EOG...
Jim Burgess <burgess@[  2008-04-10 03:22:30 
Re: Comments on EOG...
"David E. Cohen"  2008-04-10 07:43:24 
Re: Comments on EOG...
Eric Hunter <hunter90@  2008-04-09 23:47:39 
Re: Comments on EOG...
Dougray30 <dougray30@[  2008-04-10 04:12:38 

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