Chris Babcock <cbabcock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
If you're playing no-press, communication MUST be somewhat constrained.
You can't assume very much and generally miscommunication is more likely
than successful communication. So I find England's comments incredibly
arrogant as if there is ONLY one way to interpret what happened and how
Turkey judged things. To name only one, perhaps Turkey thought that
BECAUSE France moved on Turkey and England then backed off, England was
handing Turkey the win on purpose because Turkey had been wronged as a
lesson to France.
Some people believe that ANY move to take a solo is justified, so be
definition you cannot blame someone for taking a solo. England should not
have backed up to permit this. True 17-17 fought out draws happen not by
arrangement, but in the process of the game where either player WOULD take
a win if they could, but no such situation presents itself and then people
get to 17-17 lines.
I was most amused by this End Game statement though. I expect Turkey also
is laughing.
Jim-Bob
>A no press game ends in a Turkish solo in F1925M. Here are the maps:
>http://www.floc.net/observer.py?judge=USAK&game=fge00003&page=game
>This is England's End of Game statement:
>----------------
>The last move of the game featured the most
>dishonorable win I have ever witnessed. Turkey, shame
>on you! After seeing what France did to you in Spring
>1922 (move in on your supply centers when you had
>retreated, clearly signaling a 3-way draw), you should
>have known better how that is not the way to win!
>I could have won the game had I moved in on you right
>then, but decided that this would have been
>dishonorable. Instead, I chose and succeeded in
>puni****ng France for the uns****tsmanlike conduct
>(while signaling my desire for a TWO-WAY draw by
>withdrawing my forces from Russia, exactly the same
>method you had chosen). What makes me upset isn't that
>I lost the chance to win the game, but that of all
>possible opponents, you, the victim of uns****tsmanlike
>conduct yourself in the same game, pulled the same
>cheap stunt yourself. A win should be the result of
>brilliant play or an opponent's mistake, and not
>moving in on a player when he is unfairly down. What
>you did was like a mugging victim ending up mugging
>the same person who defended her. And I know you won't
>get this, but even in Diplomacy where lying and
>stabbing are part of the game, there is a place for
>honor.
> I had a lot of respect for the way you had played
>until the last move. A two-way draw in this game would
>have been one of the most beautiful results in all the
>games I have played (and I've won many, honorably).
>But instead, you blew it! Your last move reminds me of
>watching a graceful athlete win a game with wonderful
>speed and agility, but then celebrating it with the
>ugliest and most desperate taunting of his opponent.
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>Comments? Shame on Turkey, shame on England or shame on me? ;-)
>Chris
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