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Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess

by "Chess One" <OneChess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 1, 2008 at 09:03 AM

<ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:a9bfda87-4f6d-4ae7-916a-80befd24c5ec@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Mar 30, 3:22 pm, samsloan <samhsl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Taylor Kingston is trying to detract attention away from his false
> claim to have once been a chess master by attacking my title of master
> of Chinese Chess.

  Sam, can you never get *_anything_* right? I am questioning your
claim to have been THE WORLD CHAMPION OF CHINESE CHESS. You may well
have a xiangqi master title. That's not the issue. The issue is that
you said you were THE world champion.

**Can Taylor Kingston quote Sam Sloan with THAT emphasis? The emphasis
which 
says 'THE'? I do not contest Taylor Kingston's claim to have been awarded
a 
title as postal master - except for the idiocy of making masters of 1800 
players instead of 2200 players, which is to attach USCF to this nonsense,

rather than Taylor Kingston.

**But if someone said to me that he was a master, I would assume 2200
USCF, 
not 1800 postal. And if they said 2300+ Elo I would consider that OTB not 
postal.

**If someone said I have a world title, I would ask them to qualify it,
the 
same way! And if they /then/ said it was as non-Chinese player, then I
would 
not think them to have been trying to deceive me - but if they did not
make 
this clarification when asked, they so obviously were trying to pull wool 
over my eyes.

**There is plenty of stuff to dislike about Sloan's claims - and he will 
think I am a very unlikely ally for any cause of his - but in this
instance 
he seems to have made proper qualifications about his achievement, and not

waffled or made denials. That's fair. And that's all we need *****s.

**Phil Innes


 And that's a lie, isn't it, Sam?
  Here again is the recording of your speech. Your lie comes about one
minute into it:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAON2vgw1kc

> However, there is a distance.

  Yes, by all means, please keep your distance.

>  Taylor Kingston's claim to have been a
> chess master is based on a "conversion formula" that nobody but he
> recognizes.

  No, Sam, I was awarded the title of Postal Chess Master by the USCF.
No "conversion" of any sort was involved in my winning that title.
Your thought processes are terribly muddled, aren't they?

> I am the author of what is widely regarded as the best book on Chinese
> chess, "Chinese Chess for Beginners":

  And this makes you world champion?

> The official rating list of the World Chinese Chess Federation is
> published at:http://wxf.dyndns.org/xq/xqdb_index.html

  Does it list you among its world champions?

> If you will search under "CM,FM" which means Chinese Master, Foreign
> Master, you will see me listed as an FM which means "Foreign Master"
> and is the equivalent of the FIDE Title of FIDE Master.

  And this makes you world champion?

> I am one of only three non-Chinese Westerners to hold the FM title and
> there are no Westerners who hold the higher title of GM or IGM, so I
> am one of the three top non-Chinese players in the Western World.

    And this makes you world champion?

> The other two are Simon Henke of Germany and Gary Arvin of Canada. I
> have never played Gary Arvin but I played a long hard-fought draw
> against Simon Henke in the World Champion****p of Chinese Chess in
> Singa****e in 1995. We seem to be about even.

  And this makes you world champion?

> By the way, I do not consider myself to be a real master-strength
> player. I consider my real strength to be about 2100,

  Then why did you say you were world champion?

>  which is about
> what my chess strength also was at the time. However, my title is
> legitimate, won in competition over-the-board. I won two games back-to-
> back against Mr. CK Lai, who was the Champion of Europe. The games
> were published in the tournament bulletins.

  And this makes you world champion?
 




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Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
sloan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-27 21:41:10 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
"Chess One" <  2008-03-28 07:15:54 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
Michael Alford <malf@[  2008-03-28 08:11:57 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-01 08:35:54 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
Rob <robmtchl@[EMAIL P  2008-03-28 08:27:00 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-28 16:31:10 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-02 07:33:06 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
Rob <robmtchl@[EMAIL P  2008-03-28 10:30:35 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-28 19:01:47 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-29 18:55:43 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-29 22:15:29 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-30 01:14:39 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
"J.D. Walker" &  2008-03-30 12:35:30 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
jazzerciser@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-31 05:55:26 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-03-30 13:43:37 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
"Chess One" <  2008-04-01 09:03:08 
Re: Sam Sloan Master Title in Chinese Chess
Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-04-01 08:39:09 

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