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Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation

by mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Feb 29, 2008 at 06:18 PM

On Mar 1, 2:06=A0am, mark <mschr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Feb 28, 8:26 pm, mikeh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> Any other games like checkers andxiangqiwhere the best a world champion
li=
ke tinsey and Xu Yin-chuan could do is force a tournament draw on a
computer=
?

i dont know what "tournament draw" means.  if we're simply talking
about a draw, then another game would be chess if said player is >
2750 elo and he practices for a month.  the human will lose
occasionally, w/ the bulk of his loses as black, but the draw ratio
will be very high.

> Today in shogi, go, and arimaa the world champion would always beat the
co=
mputer in a tournament.

actually shogi has made large strides as of late.  it's much closer
than u think.  give it 3 yrs, and the top program will achieve parity
against world's #1.

> What is the difference between "strongly solved" and "we will solve all
3-=
 move openings"?

strongly solved means the program knows the game-theoretic result
given ANY position on the board (not necessarily a starting position/
opening).

> Do you think tinsey on his best day could win 1 game out of 100 against
to=
day's chinook? Today's chinook will have its 10 piece databases and solved
o=
ver 9 of the 3 move openings.

of course not.  chinook cant be beaten, it can always force a draw.
but that's something i've never claimed, so i've no idea why u're
asking me this in the first place.
 




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XieXie Master -- a recommendation
Joss Wright <joss@[EMA  2008-01-20 13:04:37 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-27 01:03:15 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-01-28 00:58:31 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-27 17:31:07 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-11 08:12:10 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-04 09:49:19 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-28 11:55:29 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-03-12 11:26:31 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-18 03:22:08 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-28 17:26:11 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-12 17:52:51 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-19 08:58:37 
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mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-29 10:06:47 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-03-13 13:28:51 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-20 03:42:34 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-29 18:18:46 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-21 11:58:51 
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mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-03-04 08:09:43 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-21 23:37:19 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-04 21:31:54 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-22 12:01:45 
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mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-03-06 02:35:55 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-24 17:08:55 
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mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-06 05:43:46 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 07:34:25 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-03-07 06:50:21 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-02-26 22:17:02 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mikehu79@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-03-07 23:52:16 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
Joss Wright <joss@[EMA  2008-01-27 10:38:16 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-02-27 14:55:23 
Re: XieXie Master -- a recommendation
mark <mschribr@[EMAIL   2008-03-11 06:49:41 

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