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Engelbert, Racism, Harry Payne and the Family Discussion Forum

by Brian Lafferty <blafferty@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 05:49 PM

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by artichoke on Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:35 pm

     Engelbert wrote:You also don't know many people. But that doesn't 
stop you from insulting and attacking them, does it? Horton hears a who 
Mr. Payne. Horton hears a who. It's not up to you to judge if you're a 
racist or not. It's up to others to judge you. Jeremiah Wright also 
doesn't think that he's a racist. So you're in good company Mr. Payne. 
Horton hears a who sir.


This is an example of something that was posted here that probably would 
be "censored" from the USCF Forum. I'm not at all in the business of 
removing posts any more, so my comment is just a personal opinion.

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Re: What will they think of next?

Postby Zarathustra on Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:40 pm
This is my answer to the problem; the delegates at the next Delegate 
Meeting should approve the releasing of all the information that has 
been withheld from public viewing. The information that Susan Polgar and 
Paul Truong has been asking the United States Chess Federation Executive 
Board to approve of the release of all the confidential information 
should be granted. Second, the delegates should give Susan Polgar and 
Paul Truong the right to speak and use any information they feel is 
warranted of any confidential information of the United States Chess 
Federation in their legal defense and their defense of any recall 
attempt. Third, the delegates should give Susan Polgar and Paul Truong 
the right to ask and demand any information with total and free liberty 
of any information within the custody of the United States Chess 
Federation. Fourth, anyone from the United States Chess Federation 
Executive Board that refuses the will of delegates with releasing the 
confidential information is in contempt of the delegates and therefore 
is grounds for a recall election.
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Re: What will they think of next?

Postby Zarathustra on Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:57 pm

     Harry Payne wrote:

         Engelbert wrote:You also don't know many….



     Please! do, Name 10 people, …



     artichoke wrote:

         Engelbert wrote:You also don't know many ...


     This is an example …



Gentlemen

Please, let us have an intellectual debate. The childish tactics and the 
bruising of egos of the United States Chess Federation Issue Forum 
should not be accepted within this message board. Please, this is a 
family friendly message board and we are not a closed society like the 
United States Chess Issue Forum.
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Re: What will they think of next?

Postby Harry Payne on Thu May 01, 2008 2:41 pm

     Zarathustra wrote:

         Harry Payne wrote:

             Engelbert wrote:You also don't know many….



         Please! do, Name 10 people, …



         artichoke wrote:

             Engelbert wrote:You also don't know many ...


         This is an example …



     Gentlemen

     Please, let us have an intellectual debate. The childish tactics 
and the bruising of egos of the United States Chess Federation Issue 
Forum should not be accepted within this message board. Please, this is 
a family friendly message board and we are not a closed society like the 
United States Chess Issue Forum.



I am certainly glad to hear this is a family forum. I do have a question 
though. Even on that USCF Forum. We do not tolerate, a person being 
called racist, (without Proof), or less than honest (without proof), and 
make charges such as in****ing people and attacking people( without 
proof). This was done by Mr. Engelbert, on this forum ( Myself being the 
target) Those posts would have been pulled, on the USCF Forum, and the 
poster sanctioned in violation of the AUGs.
Here is my question, "What is the childish tactics, and the bruising of 
egos that you can do***ent from the USCF Forum?"
And why would this family Forum allow such attacks on a poster, by one 
who admits ( Mr. Engelbert's Statement) " I don,t know Harry Payne from 
Jack" Yet he called me a racist, and less than honest. I just wondered. 
If this post even makes it on this "Family Forum", I would like to know.

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Re: What will they think of next?

Postby Engelbert on Thu May 01, 2008 4:19 pm
Mr. Payne, your inflated ego and arrogance is showing again. You've 
insulted Susan and Paul for almost a year and you admitted that you've 
never met them. They do more for chess in a day than you in a year.

You also seem to have a problem with your reading comprehension. I 
didn't say you're a racist. This is what I said Mr. Payne:

"Sounds like a racist or at least he comes across as such."

If you're not then why make a big deal about it? Don't worry about your 
reputation. We can clearly judge you by your words and actions. Horton 
hears a who Mr. Payne. Horton hears a who. Booo!
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Of course Englebert called Harry Payne a racist.  Englebert ignores 
something else he wrote:
"It's not up to you to judge if you're a racist or not. It's up to 
others to judge you. Jeremiah Wright also doesn't think that he's a 
racist. So you're in good company Mr. Payne."
 




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