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Injecting Children Into the Debate

by Brian Lafferty <blafferty@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 10:16 PM

The following appears on the Trolgar controlled forum chessdiscussion:
  by Harry Payne on Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:25 pm

     gregory wrote:It should be noted that Mr. Sloan and Brian Lafferty 
has had sanction after sanction overturned by Bill Goichberg and the FOC 
over the course of a year now. When I was on the FOC and moderation 
committees I personally witnessed similiar behavior to be tacitly 
encouraged as long as it can lead to the embarrassment of Goichberg’s 
political opponents.

     Here is a post from Harry Payne who is an official member of the 
USCF forum oversight committee: “you are correct, I believe Mr. Truong 
needs to be gone at any and/or all cost.” Apr 21, 2008 4:54 pm #99253

     This type of attitude to aggressively persue any methods possible 
to investigate, smear, and harass someone’s family in order to try to 
remove a candidate of the board is shameful at best. Unfortunately, 
there is a very small group of dedicated people that will use any means 
to meet these ends.

     Paul and Susan, I am really sorry that you, or anyone for that 
matter, has to go thru with this.

     Gregory



Gregory,
I most certainly believe Paul needs to be removed from the Executive 
Board, of the USCF. I do take personal offense at linking me to this 
thread. I have never raised the issue of Susan's children. I have stated 
(which you neglect to post here) If any member of the USCF or of the 
USCF EB, has threaten Susan's Children they need to show the proof and 
have them put in jail. There is not now, nor is there ever a need to 
drag children into the mess going on. The "context" of the post, you 
pulled my "text" from, was Paul's removal by recall petition, or A 
Circuit Court Judge. Mr. Hillary stated he disagreed with a Judge, and 
stated I wanted to see Paul removed at any cost. Which I agreed with. 
But certainly not at the cost of harassment of Susan's Children. I do 
not know if Susan's Children have been harassed or not. What Sam, posted 
on the other site I have not read because I do not go there. And he has 
not posted it on the USCF Forum because it would have been pulled.( 
Which I think, if I remember correctly some time back he attempted to 
do, and it was pulled. What you wish to say, or what you think of me, 
matters little to me. But I would appreciate, you keep it in context, 
and keep it honest. If this gets posted I will be pleasantly surprised, 
but noting from the past, I doubt it. I know of no one on the EB, or in 
the USCF, that condones Sam's post. Also, as a member of the MOC, I do 
not have the power to overturn a sanction, that is by appeal to the FOC. 
I have absolutely no knowledge what-so-ever of Mr. Goichberg even being 
in touch with members of the FOC. Fact of business I do know for a fact 
one member of the FOC, would make such an attempt public, as he is an 
honest man of good character. (I believe any of the FOC members would 
actually).

Also, I am not a member of the FOC, I am a member of the MOC (Moderation 
oversight Committee).

Thank you
Harry Payne.
--------------------------------------------------------
by gregory on Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:58 pm
Harry,

You are extremely vociferous in your opposition to Paul, and you have 
actively sought and sup****t different routes to 'get rid of him', even 
if it means finding an attorney to find any loop-hole, and if that does 
not work; to eliminate existing USCF election bylaws.

My point was not to link you to Brian Lafferty's latest episodes, but 
point out that there are quite a few people that will 'use any means' to 
accomplish their goals. Many of you have gone too far and the extreme 
tactics needs to stop.

Just my civil take,

G
Gregory

ChessDiscussion webmaster
----------------------------------------------------------

I would remind Gregory, the Trolgar Minion, that it was Trolgar who 
injected her children into USCF affairs with the bald assertion that 
they had been threatened. As I recall, Mr. Truong raised the issue by 
asking me on the USCF Issues Forum if I was the one who anonymously 
threatened Ms. Polgar's children.  I of course did not and recommended 
that he and Ms. Polgar re****t the matter to the FBI at Federal Plaza in 
Manhattan and that they contact the Queens County District Attorney.  I 
even offered to put them in touch with an old law school classmate who 
works in that office.  There was no response from Trolgar to my offer 
and Trolgar has NEVER confirmed publicly that they filed a complaint 
anywhere. Mr. Truong then raised the issue of Ms. Polgar's children yet 
again by writing a letter to the FOC strongly implying that I had 
threatened Ms. Polgar's children and that I was "a dangerous person."

For Trolgar to complain that the issue of a court order controlling 
their behavior regarding her children is not a valid issue is ludicrous. 
  She injected her children into USCF affairs with as yet 
unsubstantiated claims of threats against them.  Her conduct and that of 
her now acknowledged husband toward children, especially her own, is 
relevant, IMO, to her fitness to be involved in scholastic chess.

Gregory has, over the past several months, been clearly shown to be 
nothing more than Trolgar's ****ll despite he attempts to appear otherwise.
 




 29 Posts in Topic:
Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-04-29 22:16:12 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-04-29 17:06:43 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-04-30 01:20:21 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-29 19:26:52 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-04-30 10:50:03 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
"Tom Martinak"   2008-04-30 13:57:30 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
"Ray Gordon, creator  2008-04-30 02:19:18 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-30 04:36:03 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-04-30 12:27:37 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-30 06:01:50 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-04-30 06:09:24 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-30 06:42:11 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-04-30 15:57:47 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-04-30 17:53:24 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
"J.D. Walker" &  2008-04-30 16:11:15 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-05-01 01:32:42 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-30 06:46:28 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Rob <robmtchl@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 06:49:22 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-30 08:57:25 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-30 13:42:51 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-02 11:44:19 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-30 16:01:02 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-05-01 00:06:19 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-05-01 11:39:09 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-30 20:13:03 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-05-01 11:31:03 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
krose@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 07:46:33 
Re: Injecting Children Into the Debate
Thom E. Geiger <ThomEG  2008-05-11 08:48:18 
"Englebert's" 2 Cents
Brian Lafferty <blaffe  2008-04-30 10:57:05 

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