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Re: New In Chess #3 2008

by Mike Murray <mikemurray@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 14, 2008 at 08:49 AM

On Wed, 14 May 2008 01:49:52 -0700, "David Kane"
<davidekane@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


>> While the blade hovered menacingly over Fischer's head for many years,
>> AFAIK, the only overt action against him was taken by the Shrub
>> administration, and then only by the back door of a pass****t
>> violation,  using the Japanese as surrogates.  It  was a sneaky,
>> vindictive action which appears to have deliberately evaded addressing
>> the issues Berry mentions in your quote, above.

>Both you and Berry miss several im****ant facts. First, Fischer was
>indicted immediately after completing the match. 

Can you supply a link do***enting his indictment?

>Whether the embargo
>*ultimately* proved effective was really irrelevant. (By the way, I would
>not make an *****sment based on some offhand comments interpreted
>by a Canadian chess journalist!) Second, Fischer
>did not set foot in the US while under indictment- what overt actions
>*could* the US reasonably have taken? Third, Fischer no doubt
>called attention to himself with his pro-9/11 radio broadcast. That
likely
>increased interest in bringing him to justice, but the US still
>could not seek extradition because his crime was not listed in
>the extradition treaty. Fischer's expired pass****t gave the US other
>avenues to explore. The US explored them but alternate legal
>approaches were unsuccessful.

And the reason we did nothing when Fischer renewed the pass****t in
Switzerland, but rather waited until he was in Japan ?

>Once you dismiss the "chessplayers are above the law"
>arguments, I really don't see any wrongdoing on the part
>of the US government. 

"Wrongdoing" may be too strong to describe the petty vindictiveness of
a bureaucrat.  It's the dispro****tionality that Berry points out,
ignoring vastly more significant violations of the embargo,  while
going after a chess player many years later.
 




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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 09:51:58 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 20:25:45 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-14 00:56:54 
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Louis Blair <lblai@[EM  2008-05-13 20:54:40 
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nobody <master@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 11:13:30 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-11 22:00:24 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-12 13:00:51 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-12 07:12:03 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-12 17:36:54 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-12 21:09:18 
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Louis Blair <lblai@[EM  2008-05-12 14:49:24 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-12 21:59:38 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-13 09:58:16 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 18:21:56 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-15 09:28:22 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-13 05:35:45 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 05:57:05 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-13 08:25:36 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-13 17:48:19 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
"David Kane" &l  2008-05-14 01:49:52 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-14 08:49:33 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-14 09:58:50 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-14 10:18:17 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-14 13:57:29 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 07:09:03 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
"David Kane" &l  2008-05-13 09:08:04 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 12:25:36 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
"David Kane" &l  2008-05-13 18:41:37 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 05:17:21 
Re: New In Chess #3 2008
"David Kane" &l  2008-05-14 14:16:48 

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