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Re: The Rating of Chess Players, Past and Present, by Arpad Elo reprinted today

by Mike Murray <mikemurray@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 09:52 AM

On Mon, 12 May 2008 10:30:28 -0400, "Chess One" <OneChess@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:


>(b) do rating ceilings and floors exist withing Elo's system, 

To even ask this question reflects a much deeper lack of
understanding.   Hard to see how a rating system can address
deliberate sandbagging (hence the floors add-on) or cherry-picking
opponents or event manipulation (hence the rarer ceilings).  This
isn't to say that the various tweaks have come close to solving the
problems.

>and
>(c) what alternatives to USCF's 'award' system are there? [see Alekhine's

>Parrot this week at www.chessville.com for a precis of an alternate
system, 
>as declaimed by its originator]

If the CXR ratings gained the same level of usage as USCF or FIDE
ratings, you'd have the same problems with sand-bagging and
manipulation.

A number of us have suggested publicizing and perhaps awarding prizes
for some additional metrics that could piggyback on the existing
rating system:  highest rated opponent defeated, highest tournament
performance rating, etc.  These might well serve as motivators for
participating in rated events.
 




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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-09 09:54:05 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-09 13:40:02 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-09 13:29:37 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-17 14:07:51 
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SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-09 14:04:32 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-10 09:34:49 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-10 09:31:16 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-20 07:53:27 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 14:09:33 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-09 14:42:07 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-09 15:48:58 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-10 10:56:30 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 17:34:38 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-09 19:58:13 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-10 03:07:42 
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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-10 05:42:16 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-10 06:42:36 
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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-10 07:13:39 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-10 10:58:36 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-10 12:27:53 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-15 08:38:15 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-15 19:23:47 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-17 08:29:00 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-17 13:15:53 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-20 09:36:05 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 16:17:07 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-12 10:30:28 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen  2008-05-12 17:42:14 
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"J.D. Walker" &  2008-05-12 09:06:00 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-12 09:52:13 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 21:16:40 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-12 11:34:07 
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"J.D. Walker" &  2008-05-12 12:15:04 
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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-16 02:17:20 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-16 10:37:13 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-20 09:27:03 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-16 06:15:23 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-16 06:19:17 
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Frisco Del Rosario <fr  2008-05-16 06:26:02 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-16 06:32:01 
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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-16 06:44:15 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-16 06:51:34 
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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-16 14:11:38 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-16 14:31:53 

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