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Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.

by help bot <nomorechess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 11:27 PM

On May 10, 12:54 am, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> >   Many years ago, a fellow came from out
> > of nowhere with achessprogram that was
> > stronger than all the others.  It had a nice
> > GUI, nicerchesspieces than the number
> > two program, and most curious of all, it fit
> > on a single floppy disk as it was quite
> > small in addition to searching faster.
>
> Even GetClub Chess Program will fit in a floppy Disk
>
> GetClub Chess Program Size is Just 200 KB. While a Floppy can take 1.2
> MB. So you can pack 5 Chess Programs in a floppy.

  Ah, yes-- the single-sided, single density era is
long over.  In fact, I think the entire 5.25" floppy
disk era is over.  One day, my collection will be
worth a fortune, and I will then donate it to the
Smithsonian, along with my old 8-track tapes.


> The thing is that the size is small but the complexity is very high.
>
> I think GetClub program is good enough for all Human Players. Only the
> player using other commercial programs are beating the higher levels.

  Well, it is rumored that some kid called
"****amura" is now better than Roman D., who
himself was quite a computer-crusher in his
heyday.  And if you recall, then-world champion
Kramnik was beating one of the world's top
chess programs... when he threw away the win,
and then overlooked a mate-in-one on himself!

  Generally speaking, you might need to get up
to at least 2000 strength before declaring victory
over *all* humans.


> Only you are able to win the Master Level rest all are not going
> higher than Normal Level.

  True.  But then, nobody else can stand the
delay required to play the higher levels, so it is
not necessarily a case of being outclassed in
terms of strength.

  One thing I have noticed is that when it comes
to attacking, your program is much too eager to
sacrifice material, and this makes it so that a
stubborn and patient defender can win without
much trouble.  It is probably better to be a good
defender, and let the impatience of the human
animal work to destroy him.

  Many years ago, I ran into a sort of "wall", a
rating line I could not get over.  I decided to
play more aggressively, to /force/ my way to
victory against the lowly opponents I felt I was
superior to.  This backfired, and I found myself
losing games I ought to have drawn.  My rating
dropped, and this made me all the more
frustrated!

 Then I decided to just stop making quite so
many stupid blunders, to force my despised
opponents to work hard for their wins or draws.
This worked much better, and I soon found that
in the course of many an even game, I needed
but one op****tunity to seize the win, because
my technique was superior overall.  I had no
"brilliancies", but I leaped ahead of those
other guys, into a new group of players.  Now
my goal was to stop getting killed every time!
I began to nick them for draws, and eventually
became a real annoyance (deja vue)... .


  -- help bot
 




 30 Posts in Topic:
Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:56:16 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:04:42 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:16:59 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 23:01:49 
Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 23:48:47 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 00:23:46 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-08 09:37:02 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
zzz <ik_ben_piet_snot@  2008-05-04 10:40:38 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 10:50:26 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 20:38:25 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 21:01:49 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 12:30:51 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:38:44 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-07 14:40:17 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-08 22:19:06 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-09 10:14:25 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 00:45:27 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 08:18:00 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 09:57:41 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-11 18:15:36 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-12 08:38:04 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-12 23:05:33 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 13:48:13 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 21:54:34 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-10 14:37:23 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 23:27:06 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-09 23:30:54 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-10 01:15:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 03:05:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-10 04:32:18 

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