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Re: The Match That Wasn't

by "parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 05:30 PM

HE COULDA BEEN A CONTENDAH

> Note to imbecilic "projectionists": my view is
> that chess is a horrible *waste* of the human
> intellect.  As such, the weaker you may be
> (and I expect you are mediocre, at best), the
> better off you are, for you will be less likely to
> get sucked in and waste your pitiful lives away
> on a silly board game. -- Greg Kennedy

When you can't excel at something, put it down. By his own admission
the Indiana Kid coulda been a contendah if only he had lived in
Brooklyn like Bobby.

THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 292)

"Chess is as elaborate a waste of human intelligence as you can find
outside of an advertising agency," sneered novelist Raymond Chandler.





help bot wrote:
> On May 9, 2:02 pm, "Chess One" <OneCh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >  It seems likely that this particular blather was a
> > > response to the innumerable attacks "on Karpov",
> > > but by others.
> >
> > Sorry, that sentence doesn't parse.
> >
> > >  One of these others was of course,
> > > Gary Kasparov, who continued to belittle his
> > > adversary until he signed a contract forbidding it,
> > > not very long ago.
> >
> > 'these others'? Did you announce your own topic yet?
>
>   Got issues with not always being parroted or
> your speculations not just being swallowed whole,
> every time?  Then this is not the place for you, my
> friend; why not go to the USCF forum, and hire
> "moderators" to ****eld your speculations from
> sunlight?
>
>
> > What I wrote is that Karpov fessed up to things he did as world
champion,
> > that he later was not proud of, and that he is the first I know to
have done
> > this in writing.
>
>   Indeed.  And what I wrote is that I believe he
> wrote that /in response to/ the innumerable
> attacks on him.  In sum, I don't buy it, any
> more than I "buy" the lies and fabrications of
> Mr. Karpov's nemesis, Gary "I never touched it"
> Kasparov.  (At least, I don't think I touched it.
> Somebody else must have moved it!  You can't
> prove anything.  Top of the world, Ma!)
>
>
> > Fischer had no especial financial woes [laugh]
>
>   Alas, the nearly-an-IM legend-in-his-own-mind
> Phil Innes has forgotten that Mr. Fischer -- who
> one poster asserted was likely a fine investor
> and manager of money -- was swindled out of
> much of his 1972 winnings... like a child.
>
>   As I recall, Mr. Fischer desired a big house,
> built in the shape of a Rook.  He wanted to be
> paid big money, like Muhammed Ali was.  But
> he was too scared to write books, on account
> of everyone being out to get him, see?
>
>
> > As far as the public was concerned there was no Fischer-the-person,
there
> > was only the chess hero.
>
>   You are talking about the mindless fans here
> in the USA.  But there are others who read
> English... who were not so obsessed, or
> deluded about BF.  In fact, David Levy wrote
> a book about Mr. Fischer, which, far from
> going over the top, was as they say on the
> Fox TV channel, /fair and balanced/.
>
>   Some subjects upon which BF might have
> "safely" written were the Sicilian Defense, the
> "Roy" Lopez, and the endgame.  None of
> these entail /personal/ issues, nor even hero
> wor****p.  People would buy them because
> they believed BF to be a very strong chess
> analyst (think of GM Huebner or Fritz-- two
> powerful analysts who never made it to the
> pinnacle).
>
>
> > And when heroes don't compete any more for us, we
> > the public resent the fact, and want to punnish the Hero.
>
>   Even so, it is possible for the "hero" to help
> promote chess -- and make lots of money from
> it -- by writing books and such without having
> to compete.  (Think of how many Raymond
> Keene hack-jobs the world could have been
> saved!  Eric Schiller could have been a taxi
> driver or something, and we would all have
> /real/ chess books to ****e over.)
>
>
> > The fate of abandoned-celebrity is to be treated just as you have done
here
> > with Karpov and Kasparov. You can no longer fantasize yourself into
their
> > situations
>
>   I keep getting the feeling that some of the hacks
> here in rgc are a tad frustrated; that they feel a
> need to /project/ upon me their hearts' greatest
> unfulfilled desires of greatness in chess.  (Why
> me, I wonder?  Is it my innumerable wins at
> GetClub?  My good looks, or amazing charm or
> wit?  Who knows... .)
>
>
> > neither can you get there by you own efforts - intolerable
> > situation! - [for fantacists] so you 'kill' him still, even though
Fischer
> > is dead.
>
>   More ad hom. stuff, as always.
>
>   Note to imbecilic "projectionists": my view is
> that chess is a horrible *waste* of the human
> intellect.  As such, the weaker you may be
> (and I expect you are mediocre, at best), the
> better off you are, for you will be less likely to
> get sucked in and waste your pitiful lives away
> on a silly board game.
>
>   Now then, what constitutes something more
> worthwhile?  The easy answer is the field of
> medicine, or science, or even sharpening
> pencils for that matter.  What might be worse
> than wasting one's life away on chess?  Well,
> there is politics, lawyering, the advertising
> business, and the /ad hominem/ trade.
>
>   Now, I hope you learned something from all
> this.  Stop your puerile projections, and face
> your "issues" head-on, like men.  (Well, just
> *pretend* to be men then.)
>
>
>   -- help bot
 




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The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 06:03:51 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 06:15:19 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-02 06:36:11 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 06:37:34 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-02 06:40:23 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
David Richerby <davidr  2008-05-02 15:39:43 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 07:30:28 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-02 07:38:01 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
David Richerby <davidr  2008-05-02 16:19:13 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 12:05:22 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 12:07:07 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 12:09:49 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-02 12:25:05 
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Quadibloc <jsavard@[EM  2008-05-02 12:43:39 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-02 13:05:25 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 10:36:13 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:53:24 
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"goma@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 13:01:43 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 13:10:10 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 13:32:42 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 13:41:39 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 01:34:07 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 15:56:22 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-05 12:07:13 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 20:06:47 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 21:23:57 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 22:06:35 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-05 08:15:38 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 23:36:04 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 05:09:40 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 05:54:57 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-05 06:04:16 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-05 14:38:55 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-05 14:55:20 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-09 14:02:31 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 21:30:40 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 15:16:39 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-10 10:19:48 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 17:30:01 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 19:05:20 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-10 14:02:57 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 23:28:31 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-10 12:04:01 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 04:02:13 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-10 08:02:11 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 16:40:51 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 19:27:28 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-11 15:00:44 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-12 07:47:02 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen  2008-05-12 16:26:36 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-12 10:55:44 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen  2008-05-12 18:55:01 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-15 09:58:51 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"Chess One" <  2008-05-15 10:02:11 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 21:48:27 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-12 21:18:59 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-13 06:56:10 

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