Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Gaming > Computer Chess miscellaneous topics > Re: Help Bot Ad...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 23 of 30 Topic 14253 of 14709
Post > Topic >>

Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.

by help bot <nomorechess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 01:48 PM

On May 9, 12:57 pm, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> > > 5. c4-b5{572} Bf8-d6{1506}
>
> > Words fail me. It is hard to imagine how any half decent evaluation
> > function can see this as a good move even at ply 1. Blocking in your
own
> > QP with a bishop is doing whites job for him.
>
> This move was made as it want to take out the Bishop and do Chastling.

  Ah, but it never did "do chastling" until it was far
too late.  It appears that spite-checks are heavily
favored over both piece-development and castling.


> > > 6. e2-e4{104} Nf6-e4{1978}
>
> > And now the final coup de grace. Suicide chess anyone ???
>
> No it gives 2 points for killing 2 Center pawns and other 1 point for
> white King Comming out unprotected.

  Unprotected?  Note that even if the King were
"protected" by ten different men, White would
gain nothing; this is because the game ends if
the King is checkmated (i.e. to be captured),
so there is no "recapture" after the fact.

  Even if the GetClub program calculated that
it would eventually get, say, three pawns for
the Knight, it would have only done so by
checking and eating pawns while the opponent
developed several pieces.  This leaves two
problems in its wake: the Queen can either be
trapped or harried while developing even more
pieces; and normal development never happens
because of the constant need to defend the
Queen against such threats.  Besides which,
there is no gain from getting three pawns for a
Knight; in order to come out ahead, you need
to bite one of the plastic pawns in two, then
play so that you end up with three, *plus* half
of the tasteless plastic pawn for the Knight.
Watch out for lead weights!  They can be hell
to bite through.  Better still, only sac' a piece
if you get four pawns in the deal.


> and Look at White position its
> none of the pieces is developed.

  White spent time building up a wall of pawns
in the center.  Apart from a sacrifice, as in this
game, the pieces can be developed later,
behind the protection of those pawns, which
act as a ****eld.

  In closed positions, /time/ is not quite the
same as it is in open positions.  So long as
there is no significant interaction between the
two armies, maneuvering is feasible.

  In this opening (the Benko* Gambit), Black
does best if he /fianchettos/ the King's Bishop,
so it can work in conjunction with the Queen
and Rooks to attack on the Queenside.  The
move ...e5 blocks the long diagonal, and so
it is not usually combined with the ...b5 pawn
gambit.  If you want to block the center, it is
better to (still) /fianchetto/ the King's Bishop,
and then play for ...f5, as in the King's Indian
Defense.  In any case, Black will end up
playing pawn-to-d6.


> This Program is so large that if I have to read whole program line by
> line, it will take me full day. So its very difficult to go through
> all the codes and correct them.

  Many years ago, a fellow came from out
of nowhere with a chess program that was
stronger than all the others.  It had a nice
GUI, nicer chess pieces than the number
two program, and most curious of all, it fit
on a single floppy disk as it was quite
small in addition to searching faster.

  Unless you have lots of text in your chess
program (i.e. "this subroutine gives a bonus
for 'chastling', and causes every level to
think extra-long if the opponent's handle =
'help bot' "), this may well be an indication
of redundancy or poor organization.


  -- help bot
 




 30 Posts in Topic:
Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:56:16 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:04:42 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:16:59 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 23:01:49 
Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 23:48:47 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 00:23:46 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-08 09:37:02 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
zzz <ik_ben_piet_snot@  2008-05-04 10:40:38 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 10:50:26 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 20:38:25 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 21:01:49 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 12:30:51 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:38:44 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-07 14:40:17 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-08 22:19:06 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-09 10:14:25 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 00:45:27 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 08:18:00 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 09:57:41 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-11 18:15:36 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-12 08:38:04 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-12 23:05:33 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 13:48:13 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 21:54:34 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-10 14:37:23 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 23:27:06 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-09 23:30:54 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-10 01:15:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 03:05:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-10 04:32:18 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan12V112 Sat Jul 26 9:07:31 CDT 2008.