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Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.

by help bot <nomorechess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

On May 9, 1:19 am, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
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> zebediah: (White)
> advance: (Black)
> Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> View Recorded
Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM20056&game=Chess
>
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>
> White -- Black
> (zebediah) -- (advance)
>
> 1. d2-d4{8} Ng8-f6{0}
> 2. c2-c4{2} c7-c5{0}
> 3. d4-d5{2} b7-b5{0}
> 4. f2-f3{22} e7-e5{0}
> 5. c4-b5{572} Bf8-d6{1506}
> 6. e2-e4{104} Nf6-e4{1978}
> 7. f3-e4{14} Qd8-h4{2114}
> 8. Ke1-e2{8} Qh4-e4{2258}
> 9. Ke2-f2{6} c5-c4{2254}
> 10. Bc1-e3{356} Qe4-f5{3408}
> 11. Qd1-f3{30} Qf5-c2{2238}
> 12. Nb1-d2{28} f7-f5{2234}
> 13. Qf3-e2{632} Bd6-b4{3888}
> 14. Qe2-c4{1112} Qc2-c4{1666}
> 15. Nd2-c4{256} f5-f4{2030}
> 16. Be3-d2{6} Bb4-d2{1590}
> 17. Nc4-d2{108} Ke8-g8{1284}
> 18. d5-d6{208} Bc8-b7{1758}
> 19. Bf1-c4{14} Kg8-h8{1396}
> 20. Ra1-e1{398} Rf8-e8{2144}
> 21. Ng1-f3{274} e5-e4{1730}
> 22. Nd2-e4{34} Re8-e4{2102}
> 23. Re1-e4{22} Bb7-e4{1412}
> 24. Rh1-e1{38} Be4-g6{1834}
> 25. Bc4-d5{5788} Nb8-c6{1806}
> 26. b5-c6{12} d7-c6{1816}
> 27. Nf3-e5{104} c6-d5{1324}
> 28. Ne5-g6{222} h7-g6{1616}
> 29. d6-d7{6} Ra8-g8{2486}
> 30. Re1-e8{14} Rg8-e8{2828}
> 31. Qd7-e8{Q}{14} Kh8-h7{1954}
> 32. Kf2-f3{4732} a7-a5{1770}
> 33. Kf3-f4{358} d5-d4{1808}
> 34. Kf4-g5{444} d4-d3{170}
>
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>  zebediah: (White)
> advance: (Black)
> Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> View Recorded
Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM20056&game=Chess
>
> What were the wrong moves that Zebediah was able to win despite it was
> Advance Level which thinks for 1/2 an hour?


  First of all, the move 4. ... e5 does not fit in particularly
well with this system for Black.  Generally speaking,
the idea is to /fianchetto/ the King's Bishop, and then
bear down on the Queen-side pawns-- not block the
center with Black's pawns.

  Secondly, 5. ... Bd6 is a very clumsy move; the
Bishop looks like an overgrown pawn on that square,
blocked in by two of its fellow men.

  Third, the sacrifice 6. ... Nxe4 loses decisive material,
presumably in exchange for the following meaningless
spite-checks.  It's fairly simple, really: you need to get
(at least) THREE pawns for a Knight.  And in order for
such an "attack" to succeed, you have to have some
other pieces developed, so they can jump into the
fracas quickly.

  One more thing: it is quite obvious that Zebediah is
operating a chess engine; every game I have thus far
seen fits the computer style to a Tee.  So you have
virtually no chance here.  I wouldn't worry about Zeb
or Rybka winning; it's no biggie, really.  In my
opinion, Zeb's program is not as good as Rybka, so
you could beat him by pulling a switcheroo... .  ;>D


  One move that the GetClub program consistently
eschewed was the ultra-obvious ... O-O.  The Black
Queen bounced all over the place delivering harm-
less spite-checks while White developed all of its
pieces, like normal chess programs do.


  -- help bot
 




 30 Posts in Topic:
Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:56:16 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:04:42 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:16:59 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 23:01:49 
Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 23:48:47 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 00:23:46 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-08 09:37:02 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
zzz <ik_ben_piet_snot@  2008-05-04 10:40:38 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 10:50:26 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 20:38:25 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 21:01:49 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 12:30:51 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:38:44 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-07 14:40:17 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-08 22:19:06 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-09 10:14:25 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 00:45:27 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 08:18:00 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 09:57:41 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-11 18:15:36 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-12 08:38:04 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-12 23:05:33 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 13:48:13 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 21:54:34 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-10 14:37:23 
Re: Help Bot Advice adopted.
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 23:27:06 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-09 23:30:54 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-10 01:15:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 03:05:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-10 04:32:18 

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