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Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik

by "parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 06:51 PM

THE WAY IT WAS


>This, from a Soviet defector, sup****ts the notion that
Botvinnik was, at least to some extent, controlling chess
information in Russia.> -- Taylor Kingston

      There was also force or its threat -- in one
form or another -- employed by both Botvinnik and
Karpov during their reigns.  Those who refused to
contribute to the "collective" could be punished.

      One handy weapon, which could lead to outright
starvation of one's family, was loss of ration cards.
Dogs and cats disappeared from the streets of Moscow
in the late 1940s. You did as Botvinnik wished or
your children might die from malnutrition.  Times were
not quite so dire during Karpov's time, but Soviet
citizens did not eat well back then, either.

      Concerning Bogatyrchuk, there was a nasty attack
on him by "Ludek Pachman" in the British Chess
Magazine when Pachman was still a dedicated
Stalinist.  Interestingly, the English in the attack
was excellent; and from Pachman's anguished written
appeals after the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia,
we know that he wrote pidgin English. His book
CHECKMATE IN PRAGUE: THE MEMOIRS OF A
GRANDMASTER (1975) written after he was thrown
in prison for breaking with the party line still makes
for interesting reading. Pachman also was the target
of a Soviet boycott and spent his last days in Berlin.

      So, then, Bogatyrchuk was a defector who
prompted the Soviet propaganda machine into action
in an attempt to discredit him.  In fact, it was an
example of the kind of stuff offered here recently by
Juergen, our jerkin' gherkin, when attacking Korchnoi.
The very fact of the bogus attacks on Bogatyrchuk
lend his testimony considerable plausibility.

Yours, Larry Parr


ttk5...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> On May 7, 6:48?am, David Richerby <dav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
> > <ttk5...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > A particularly relevant quote from the Winter article is this,
> > > written by Bohatirchuk in 1949:
> >
> > > "[Botvinnik's] trainer (now perhaps a whole retinue of trainers)
> > > works out theoretical novelties for him and tests them in play with
> > > other masters; publication of these trial games is forbidden until
> > > Botvinnik uses that particular variation."
> >
> > > This, from a Soviet defector, sup****ts the notion that Botvinnik
> > > was, at least to some extent, controlling chess information in
Russia.
> >
> > Sure but that's standard stuff, surely? ?Doesn't every top-ten player
> > do that, except that these days, the trial games are probably against
> > the computer?
>
>   Well, it was not standard for most masters in Botvinnik's day,
> whether Soviet or Western, to have "a retinue of trainers." So in that
> sense he enjoyed a special privilege. As far as secret trial games are
> concerned, yes, that was and is quite common. I cited the passage only
> because, in saying "publication of these trial games is forbidden," it
> provided some sup****t, however minor, to the notion that Botvinnik was
> controlling the flow of chess information.
 




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The Euphemism in Botvinnik
lumecas <lumecas@[EMAI  2008-05-04 11:14:40 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-04 12:33:46 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-05 21:20:04 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 08:10:06 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-06 12:37:12 
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zdrakec <zdrakec@[EMAI  2008-05-06 12:58:38 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 13:08:24 
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SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-06 14:13:19 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-06 17:19:04 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
David Richerby <davidr  2008-05-07 11:48:36 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-06 22:45:07 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-06 22:59:27 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-06 23:02:42 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-07 05:31:50 
Re: The Euphemism in Botvinnik
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 18:51:04 
Re: Ludek Pachman
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 19:45:05 

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