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Re: The Match That Wasn't

by jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 4, 2008 at 01:34 AM

help bot wrote:
> On May 3, 1:36 pm, "parrthe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <parrthe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Several readers said they understood "selfmate" to mean only that
> > Fischer mated himself by handing the title to Karpov without a
> > fight..
>
>   This nonsense about Bobby Fischer handing "his"
> title off to Anatoly Karpov is wrongheaded.
>
>   In fact, Mr. Fischer resigned the FIDE title, and it
> was only later given to the winner of the final playoff
> match, by FIDE (not BF).   Mr. Fischer's battles
> were with or against the FIDE assembly, not AK.
> And I wouldn't say that BF did not put up a fight; it
> is perhaps more accurate to say that he lost by
> TKO, after winning nearly every round but the last.
>
>
>   -- help bot


You can argue this one either way. In June of 1974, when FIDE wouldn't
agree to his match conditions, Fischer wrote the letter resigning his
"FIDE title." In September of 1974, Karpov won the final Candidates
Match. In that sense, Kennedy's quibble is correct. However, in May-
June 1975, FIDE held another meeting and agreed to _almost_ all of
Fischer's conditions. They then sent Fischer a request to play, more
or less ignoring the "resignation" letter. When Fischer refused to
rely, Karpov was declared the winner by forfeit. Looked at that way,
Evans's account is fairly accurate -- by declining to play, Fischer
"gave" the title to his (known) opponent.
 




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The Match That Wasn't
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 06:03:51 
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SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 06:15:19 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-02 06:36:11 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 06:37:34 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-02 06:40:23 
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David Richerby <davidr  2008-05-02 15:39:43 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 07:30:28 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-02 07:38:01 
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David Richerby <davidr  2008-05-02 16:19:13 
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SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 12:05:22 
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SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 12:07:07 
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SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-02 12:09:49 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-02 12:25:05 
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Quadibloc <jsavard@[EM  2008-05-02 12:43:39 
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Mike Murray <mikemurra  2008-05-02 13:05:25 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 10:36:13 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:53:24 
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"goma@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-03 13:01:43 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 13:10:10 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 13:32:42 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 13:41:39 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 01:34:07 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 15:56:22 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-05 12:07:13 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 20:06:47 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 21:23:57 
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jkh001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-04 22:06:35 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-05 08:15:38 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 23:36:04 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 05:09:40 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 05:54:57 
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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-05-05 06:04:16 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-05 14:38:55 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-05 14:55:20 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-09 14:02:31 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 21:30:40 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 15:16:39 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 17:30:01 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 19:05:20 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-10 14:02:57 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-09 23:28:31 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-10 12:04:01 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 04:02:13 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
The Historian <neil.th  2008-05-10 08:02:11 
Re: The Match That Wasn't
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 16:40:51 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-10 19:27:28 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-11 15:00:44 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-12 07:47:02 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen  2008-05-12 16:26:36 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-12 10:55:44 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen  2008-05-12 18:55:01 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-15 09:58:51 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-15 10:02:11 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 21:48:27 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-12 21:18:59 
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