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Re: ****rov's Sad Saga

by "parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 02:34 PM

FISCHER & KASPAROV ON THE USCF (some 20-odd years ago)

=93As far as the U.S. Chess Federation goes, I have nothing to do with
them, I consider them to be a pro-Soviet, criminal organization,
terrible people. I would like...I would appreciate it if all my fans
canceled their subscriptions to their horrible magazine Chess Life. I
call it Chess Lies -- and withdrew from member****p of this
organization.=94 -- Bobby Fischer

=93The small minded leaders of the Unites States Chess Federation try to
keep it an amateur game and must be purged like entrenched Communist
Bureaucrats.=94 -- Garry Kasparov

P.S. <Of course, when CL made it mandatory for every article to have a
 red-baiting angle, Evans complied with his wild, fact-free
allegations> --

David Kane cannot prove his ludicrous charge because there was never
any
such policy -- either verbal or written. In fact, the powers-that-be
largely tried to squelch exposure of
either FIDE's dirty deeds or Soviet cheating.

And so it goes.



parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> ATTACK IS THE BEST DEFENSE
>
> <Of course, when CL made it mandatory for every article to have a
> red- baiting angle, Evans complied with his wild, fact-free
> allegations> --
> David Kane
>
> The opposite of rabid anti-Soviet bias evidently is pro-Soviet bias,
> largely exhibited here by both Jurgen and David Kane who lied
> outright because no such directive was ever issued by me or
> any other editor of Chess Life to any writer in this magazine..
> In fact, the opposite was true. GM Evans was asked to tone down
> his criticism of FIDE on several occasions..
>
> I<If  David Kane has any proof of his ludicrous charge, let him
> present it here.>
>
>    Unable to offer a scintilla of proof -- as expected -- the Kanestar
> typically launches new smears and the old Ad Hom Attack.
>
>
>
> David Kane wrote:
> > <parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >
news:ede19792-8086-4380-9cf4-5d7691a873f9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > PUT UP OR SHUT UP, MR. KANE!
> > >
> > > <Of course, when CL made it mandatory for  every article to have a
> > > red-
> > > baiting angle, Evans complied with his wild, fact-free allegations>
--=

> > > David
> > > Kane
> > >
> > > The opposite of rabid anti-Soviet bias evidently is pro-Soviet bias,
> > > largely exhibited here by bothf Jurgen and David Kane who lied
> > > outright because no such directive was ever issued by me or
> > > any other editor of Chess Life to any writer in this magazine..
> > > In fact, the opposite was true. GM Evans was asked to tone down
> > > his criticism of FIDE on several occasions..
> > >
> > > If David Kane has any proof of his ludicrous charge, let him present
> > > it here.
> >
> > Parr continues to astound with his ridiculous arguments. First,
> > he raised the technicality that GM Evans' was an independent
> > contractor rather than a salaried employee as proof of something.
> > His new line is that only a written directive can establish policy.
> > The man is surely confused. If you are going to shoot down
> > strawmen, at least build up something worth shooting at.
> >
> > During the period that Chess Life was filled cover to cover
> > with sophomoric polemic, do you think that GM Evans
> > was too stupid to notice? Of course not. And it was at
> > this time that his own writing moved away from its somewhat
> > more responsible approach earlier in his life.
> >
> > There are more inconsistencies in Evans' output than
> > any one man can do***ent. Many of them have been
> > posted here repeatedly (such as his approach to
> > Fischer, at first reasonable, later blaming the Soviets
> > for Fischer's own behavior) and I'll not bother
> > repeating it.
> >
> > A particular favorite of mine is approach to playing
> > in Cuba. He ****trays himself as a fearless maverick -
> > defying the embargo as a matter of principle. But
> > isn't that just aiding the same evil communists responsible
> > for all of the worlds ills in his other posts? Not only
> > that, but he brings out this particular little story as a
> > reason for why it was wrong to get upset at
> > Fischer for defying the worldwide embargo
> > on Serbia - a country, let us not forget, that
> > was actively engaged in genocidal repression.
> >
> > Consistency is not highly valued in Parr's crowd.
> >
> > For the record, I do not hold Karpov responsible
> > for the USSR's wrongdoing any more than I
> > hold Keres' responsible for the Nazis' for playing
> > in Nazi-organized tournaments. How they
> > behaved politically is frankly of little interest to
> > me. How they behaved as chessplaying s****tsmen
> > has a lot more to do with my view of them.
> > And Karpov does deserve condemnation on
> > that count - there was abominable s****tsman****p
> > on both sides and Karpov certainly does deserve
> > some of the blame for the behavior of his side.
> >
> > But the truth is that for both Karpov and
> > Korchnoi it was always about the chess -
> > the political controversy was a manufactured
> > sideshow. And they did give the chess world a
> > memorable match.
 




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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-26 15:28:25 
A Strange Ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-26 18:37:51 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-27 19:15:36 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 07:08:59 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen  2008-04-28 19:10:31 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 08:08:38 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 11:54:05 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-04-29 17:15:08 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-29 13:31:12 
Yet another strange ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-28 15:04:45 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 19:03:29 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 19:10:44 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-04-29 17:07:17 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-28 19:55:29 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-04-28 23:32:56 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-29 09:22:03 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 22:36:36 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-04-28 23:46:30 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 00:09:03 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-29 05:27:41 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 07:16:19 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-04-29 08:36:02 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-29 16:52:25 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 08:18:04 
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samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-04-29 09:12:17 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-29 09:45:29 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 14:59:03 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 17:31:15 
Another Silly Ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 18:44:26 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 20:48:06 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-04-30 11:22:05 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 23:39:09 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-30 07:40:17 
Re: Another Silly Ploy
Guy Macon <http://www.  2008-04-30 09:41:14 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 04:04:09 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 06:26:52 
Re: Another Silly Ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 13:13:00 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 13:54:55 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-30 17:28:34 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 16:19:09 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 16:38:43 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 17:10:52 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-04-30 19:32:28 
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"Chess One" <  2008-05-01 08:22:00 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 20:20:13 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 03:44:02 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-01 08:43:24 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 05:52:20 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-01 17:16:45 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 07:29:01 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 14:34:46 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 19:03:20 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-05-01 21:11:22 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-01 20:28:27 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 22:56:02 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 06:33:25 
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