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Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level

by help bot <nomorechess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 1, 2008 at 12:04 AM

On May 1, 1:22 am, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> >   I "face it now" by trading down to an elementary win,
> > only to have the game wrongly adjudicated as a draw
> > because somebody atGetClubdoesn't know much
> > aboutchess.  :>D
>
> >   KBB vs. K is a forced win, just like KR vs. K is.
>
> I know KBB vs K is forced win.
>
> But when Computer has 2 Bishops extra and it will never be able to
> find a win. So the game will never end.


  Ah, but it wasn't the GetClub program which had
the two Bishops; it was *me*.

  Generally speaking, I can mate with a K&Q very
quickly and easily.  With K&R just as easily, but
it may take a little longer.  With KBB I have to
work more, to coordinate three men instead of
only two.  But all of these are elementary wins,
even for me.

  However, I will admit that with KBN, there is a
chance I could overstep the fifty moves rule, *if*
the program is an excellent defender.  Another
theoretical win which I cannot always prevail in
would be K&Q vs. K&R-- if the program is
using the endgame table-bases.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

  Now, let me ask you honestly: why is it that
in every instance where something like this
happens, the result is slanted in favor of the
GetClub program-- and never the other way?
The answer is obvious: you cheat.

  When mere incompetence is the problem,
the results are *random*, favoring either side
in no particular pattern.  At GetClub, the
result is always a free win or draw for your
program.  Just look at the re****ted win/loss
record for "help bot" and "nomorechess", for
instance: *numerous* losses and draws
which were in reality, not lost or drawn at all.
Yet I cannot think of a single case where I
was "given" a free win, in a losing position.
Coincidence?  Not hardly.


  -- help bot
 




 33 Posts in Topic:
Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-26 22:57:42 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-28 01:19:26 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 23:02:42 
Re: It is Strange
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-07 17:41:43 
Re: It is Strange
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-11 13:51:28 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-29 23:50:30 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 13:01:20 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-01 08:44:03 
Re: It is Strange
Quadibloc <jsavard@[EM  2008-05-12 02:27:46 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-30 22:22:17 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-01 08:56:50 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-01 00:04:25 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-01 01:20:00 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-05-01 08:59:39 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-05-01 14:20:36 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-01 07:01:20 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-01 12:12:49 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-01 12:18:52 
It is Strange
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 01:28:20 
Re: It is Strange
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-05-02 21:52:29 
Re: It is Strange
Patrick Volk <pjvolk@[  2008-05-07 20:03:51 
Re: It is Strange
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-02 02:09:12 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:46:35 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:47:17 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-05-03 10:20:05 
Re: It is Strange
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:48:12 
Re: Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:49:04 
Re: It is Strange
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:21:06 
Re: It is Strange
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:25:11 
Re: It is Strange
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 04:48:58 
Re: It is Strange
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 06:59:02 
Re: It is Strange
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:44:33 
Re: It is Strange
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 18:03:06 

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