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Re: ****rov's Sad Saga

by help bot <nomorechess@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 30, 2008 at 04:19 PM

On Apr 30, 9:26 am, "parrthe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <parrthe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:


> The opposite of rabid anti-Soviet bias evidently is pro-Soviet bias,
>  largely exhibited here by bothf Jurgen and David Kane who lied
>  outright because no such directive was ever issued by me or
> or any other editor of Chess Life


  Whoa there, fella.  I don't think David Kane would
believe that a Chess Lies editor called the shots at
the USCF.  So many "stories" have appeared here
over the years that surely Mr. Kane must have seen
at least one of them; in these stories, editor LP
claimed to have been dictated to by higher-ups.  So
the issue has nothing to do with what "editors" of
CL may or may not have done-- that's a red herring.


> to any writher in this magazine..


  The only writhing I recall, was that of those who
had the difficult task of attacking the world's best
chess player, Anatoly Karpov, during the time
when the world's strongest non-player refused to
compete altogether.  As one famous fellow put it,
"I feel your pain" -- the pain of having so difficult a
task.  Fortunately for the "writhers", Mr. Karpov
was a member of the Communist Party, and as
such his politics made for easy pickins.  It so
happened that he also became friends with a big
FIDE honcho, which further eased their pain.  I
still feel sorry for them though, for the writhers
that is, because they had virtually no hope of
comprehending how Mr. Karpov was winning so
many games; his style was too subtle for them.


> In fact, the opposite was true. GM Evans was asked to tone down
> his criticism of FIDE on several occasions..


  Here's the problem: Chess Lies is the magazine of
the USCF, which in turn is a member of the FIDE.
It boils down to the fine line between merely ba****ng
the superior organization, and constructive criticism--
if politicos at FIDE can even handle that, which is
doubtful.


> Ample evidence of Sovietism pulling the strings in FIDE is also cited
> in THIS CRAXY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans. His research is beyond
> dispute.


  Oh, I'm sure that Mr. Evans' famed "research" skills
are not in dispute here. [Chortle.]

  But it was not only the Soviet Union which pulled
strings with FIDE.  In fact, a whole lot of strings
were pulled when Bobby Fischer made his assault
on the title-- including, but certainly not limited to,
qualifying.  Perhaps the issue is not the pulling of
strings, but a matter of degree-- how many times
and to what degree strings were pulled?  In that
case, the Soviets obviously were involved more
often and to a far greater degree, since they had
the world's best chess players for so many years.

  But it is the pretense that "cheating" is limited
to or unique to the Soviets that reveals the "huge
bias" (John Watson, et al) of the Evans ratpack.

  A lot of what appears here in rgc is in response
to this "huge bias" (John Watson, et al), and as a
direct result, Larry Parr and his dregs seem to
feel that others are taking a "pro-Soviet" view; in
reality, it only /appears that way/, because the
many corrections target the bias and factual
errors and omissions of the rabidly anti-Soviet
Evans ratpack.  If instead, we had a rabidly pro-
Soviet ratpack posting their lunacies to rgc, it
might /appear/ that those who corrected their
many gaffes were anti-Soviet.  Fortunately for
everyone, the Evans ratpack is unique... .


  -- help bot
 




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Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-26 15:28:25 
A Strange Ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-26 18:37:51 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-27 19:15:36 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 07:08:59 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?J=FCrgen  2008-04-28 19:10:31 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 08:08:38 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-28 11:54:05 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-04-29 17:15:08 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"Chess One" <  2008-04-29 13:31:12 
Yet another strange ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-28 15:04:45 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 19:03:29 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 19:10:44 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-04-29 17:07:17 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-28 19:55:29 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"David Kane" &l  2008-04-28 23:32:56 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-29 09:22:03 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-28 22:36:36 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"David Kane" &l  2008-04-28 23:46:30 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 00:09:03 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-29 05:27:41 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 07:16:19 
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"David Kane" &l  2008-04-29 08:36:02 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-29 16:52:25 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 08:18:04 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-04-29 09:12:17 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-29 09:45:29 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 14:59:03 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 17:31:15 
Another Silly Ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 18:44:26 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-29 20:48:06 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-04-30 11:22:05 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-29 23:39:09 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"Chess One" <  2008-04-30 07:40:17 
Re: Another Silly Ploy
Guy Macon <http://www.  2008-04-30 09:41:14 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 04:04:09 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 06:26:52 
Re: Another Silly Ploy
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 13:13:00 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 13:54:55 
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"Chess One" <  2008-04-30 17:28:34 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 16:19:09 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 16:38:43 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-04-30 17:10:52 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"David Kane" &l  2008-04-30 19:32:28 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"Chess One" <  2008-05-01 08:22:00 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-30 20:20:13 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 03:44:02 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"David Kane" &l  2008-05-01 08:43:24 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 05:52:20 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-01 17:16:45 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-01 07:29:01 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-01 13:57:22 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-01 14:29:34 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-02 00:26:24 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 14:34:46 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 19:03:20 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
"David Kane" &l  2008-05-01 21:11:22 
Re: Shirov's Sad Saga
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-01 20:28:27 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 22:56:02 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-05 13:38:15 
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"parrthenon@[EMAIL P  2008-05-05 06:33:25 
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=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_R  2008-05-05 16:23:44 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-05 14:18:55 

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