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Re: ****rov's Sad Saga

by "parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 07:15 PM

GREG'S BILE

      Most of you probably noticed that among the
reasons Greg Kennedy attacked Larry Evans was that
the 5-time U.S. champion's "scolding" of Kasparov
for doublecrossing ****rov "had no effect."

      Key-razy stuff from a very bitter man in Indiana.
 That would also be a reason for attacking GM Evans
 for pointing out Anatoly Karpov's depredations which
 also "had no effect."

      A few of you also likely caught the reference to
Evans' "puff piece."  Greg has a tin ear.  Evans was
answering a question from readers in his column,
including Kasparov's manager who took umbrage at
referring to his client's "shabby behavior."
..
   That is not a "piece," as the term is commonly used in
journalism.  It is an answer from a Q&A column.

      Greg is right that GM Evans screamed louder over
several of Karpov's outrages, but that is because
GM Evans could and can distinguish among differing
wrongs, unlike the coulda-been-a-contendah guy who
is a nobody in chess and rarely has a good word to
say about anyone..

    Kasparov cheated ****rov outrageously; Karpov played
matches against Korchnoi with the latter's family held
prisoner inside the USSR.  On the eve  of the second match
in 1981, Korchnoi's son was beaten in a Soviet slave camp --
an event that had a disastrous,though anticipated effect on
Korchnoi's morale.

    Kasparov cheated and swerved and tergiversated; Karpov
was, and may remain, a prime Grade AAA bonded rat,
though in sheep's clothing these days.

      GM Evans' answer in his Q&A column was strongly
worded and to the point, which is the way he always
answered questions when his views were definite.

      In a separate posting I will present a long
COPYRIGHTED article I wrote at the World Chess
Network.It takes note of every sickening curve in
Kasparov's swerving on the ****rov match.  It is rather
long and may seem a bit unrelenting to those of you
outside the "coulda been a contendah" bitterness of
our Greg, but it got the issue right -- an issue that
had permutations of which our detail-shy Greg is
blissfully unaware.

       Including, I might add, a refutation of a
famous comment by Leo Durocher.

Yours, Larry Parr




help bot wrote:
> parrthenon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > GM Larry Evans has been an objective observer of the chess scene for
> > decades
>
>   In fact, Larry Evans is the most biased "observer"
> I know; his spin-zone reminds me of the "fair and
> balanced" Fox News channel on TV.
>
>
> >             EVANS ON CHESS (Best Question, September 1999)
> >
> > Answer to a reader who said he was "absolutely disgusted" with the way
> > "Alexei ****rov got shafted after he was promised a title match."
> >
> >                                       GM EVANS RESPONDED
> >
> > I couldn't agree with you more. In my syndicated column (A Debt Of
> > Honor) I noted: A planned match with ****rov collapsed because backers
> > got cold feet, fearing the contest might be too one-sided.
> > Nonetheless, many critics feel that Kasparov is honor-bound to give
> > ****rov a shot at the title first.
> >
> > 1.  In 1998 Kasparov organized a match between ****rov and Kramnik,
> > pledging to play the winner for $2 million.
> >
> > 2. ****rov won -- but only Kramnik got paid.
> >
> > 3. Kasparov has a debt of s****ting honor to see that ****rov is fully
> > compensated and to face him under terms initially paraded by his
> > defunct World Chess Countil." Kasparov's retaining draw odds is unfair
> > to Anand and horribly distorted their 1995 tilt which began with eight
> > straight draws.
>
>
>   I was a subscriber to Chess Lies at the time that
> article appeared.  Having become well accustomed to
> the "huge bias" (IM John Watson, et al) of Mr. Evans,
> I took the article as a token puff-piece-- not anything
> like what one would expect if, say, FIDE or Anatoly
> Karpov or any of the other, usual whipping boys had
> done precisely the same thing.
>
>   You see, when FIDE messes up -- and it quite often
> does -- Mr. Evans has a cow.  He will rant and rave
> about the "injustice" or whatever until the day he dies,
> guaranteed.  Yet when one of his faves -- here, Gary
> Kasparov -- blunders, all we can expect from the
> hugely biased five-time U.S. Champ is a scolding,
> and then silence.  It is a double-standard to be sure,
> but then, that seems to be the only kind of standard
> Mr. Evans knows.
>
>   So you see, the fact that Mr. Evans wanted "to be
> seen" as having come out in sup****t of Mr. ****rov
> does not impress.  LE's scolding had no effect, and I
> don't mean just on the cheating of Mr. ****rov, but on
> his overall favoritism with regard to Mr. Kasparov.
>
>   The reason is obvious: sup****ting GK is conducive
> to Larry Evan's FIDE-ba****ng agenda.  That agenda
> is so im****tant to LE that he cannot afford to side
> with "justice", no matter what it might happen to be.
>
>   I couldn't help bot notice that Mr. Parr felt it might
> help his ad hominem "cause" to switch threads; so
> then, what was it that he was so worried about in
> the original thread?  I think I know: it was probably
> the post in which LP presented Gary Kasparov as
> a champion of "justice", who, much like Superman,
> fights a never-ending battle for Truth, Justice, and
> the Kasparov way.
>
>   The ploy /could have/ worked, but for making such
> a titanic blunder in the area of casting.  I cannot say
> who is right for the role of champion of justice, but it
> is painfully obvious that Gary Kasparov ain't it.
>
>
>   -- help bot
 




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