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Re: Samuel Lipschutz

by Anders Thulin <ath_no_spam_please@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 07:04 PM

jeremy.p.spinrad@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> Could it be that in Lipschutz's time, however, he considered his true
> name his Hebrew name, and basically answered with any name which
> started with an S when asked?

   You mean, any name at all? Perhaps, in everyday situations -- but in
more formal situations, there are certain disadvantages to it. If
pass****ts
were required at this time, the name used in those would probably be
a kind of 'official' name.

   It strikes me that Steinitz adopted the name 'William' on
naturalization.
Was Lipschutz also naturalized US citizen? If he was, he might have done
something similar -- and that might have helped add to the confusion over
his name, particularly if he exchanged an old-world name for a new-world
one.

> Would it make sense to collect all the old sources in which a name is
> given for Lipschutz, to see whether any name is really more common
> than any other? I think I have references to all the names listed,
> though IIRC Salomon rather than Solomon is given in my source.

   I think that depends on what hypothesis is being tested. The 'any name
beginning with S' won't really be tested this way, except perhaps
negatively
(an uneven distribution might help disprove it). The 'most common
is probably the actual name' works only if the re****ters are sufficiently
early in the transmission chain, and reasonably 'close'. A writer in San
Francisco
might simply have copied a name from a re****t in a New York paper, and so
may
ac***ulate a mistake, rather than add independent confirmation.

   Another possibility would be to look for corrections. Anyone writing in
and
saying that 'you got his name wrong' may have reason for believing a
certain name is more correct than another. If the corrections tend to
point
one way, especially if there is corroboration from official sources, it
should be
a pretty strong indication. (Of course, if they don't ... there's probably
reason for concluding Lipschutz was careful about revealing his name.)

   Me, I would probably go for official sources first: naturalization
records?
death certificate? pass****ts (both in the US and in Austria/Hungary, if
possible)
and so on.

-- 
Anders Thulin     anders*thulin.name     http://www.anders.thulin.name/
 




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Samuel Lipschutz
RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-26 12:59:11 
Re: Samuel Lipschutz
Anders Thulin <ath_no_  2008-04-26 21:16:15 
Re: Samuel Lipschutz
David Richerby <davidr  2008-04-30 13:01:49 
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Anders Thulin <ath_no_  2008-04-30 13:39:10 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-26 16:19:38 
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Anders Thulin <ath_no_  2008-04-27 05:24:57 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-26 17:19:57 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-26 17:47:35 
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"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-27 10:27:04 
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Anders Thulin <ath_no_  2008-04-27 19:04:21 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-27 13:46:58 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-27 13:54:12 
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Anders Thulin <ath_no_  2008-04-28 15:51:55 
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David Richerby <davidr  2008-04-30 13:23:18 
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"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-27 17:57:58 
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"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-27 17:59:45 
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"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-04-28 00:08:23 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-28 04:03:20 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-28 04:11:22 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-28 04:44:14 
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Anders Thulin <ath_no_  2008-04-28 15:58:21 
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"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-04-28 08:44:32 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-28 15:23:23 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-28 15:26:05 
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"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-04-28 20:00:56 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-29 04:45:35 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-29 05:26:44 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-29 05:42:57 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-29 05:47:00 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-29 06:50:36 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-29 07:01:26 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-29 07:05:15 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-29 07:10:47 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-29 07:43:21 
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"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-29 11:11:07 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-29 13:07:46 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 05:18:28 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 05:25:20 
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David Richerby <davidr  2008-04-30 14:40:38 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 05:31:15 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-30 06:57:52 
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zdrakec <zdrakec@[EMAI  2008-04-30 07:00:21 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 07:23:21 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 07:30:37 
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David Richerby <davidr  2008-04-30 16:20:13 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 07:44:26 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-30 08:17:37 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 08:26:07 
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RookHouse <morphy@[EMA  2008-04-30 08:29:14 
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ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-30 08:30:35 
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The Historian <neil.th  2008-04-30 08:39:02 
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