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Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censor****p Problem

by "jeremy.p.spinrad@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <jeremy.p.spinrad@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 23, 2008 at 09:14 AM

Sam,

You have real issues to deal with involving impersonation. The issue
of what kind of a parent anyone is has absolutely no relevance to the
case.  Look at it this way.

If the fake Sam Sloan posts were by Truong, everyone seems to be in
agreement that he must resign, no matter what goes on within the
family.

If the fake Sam Sloan posts were not by Truong, nobody would sup****t
an investigation into the family to determine what happens within the
family.

Why do you fritter away the op****tunity to take the high moral ground,
and bring in something which will only be a distraction taking
attention from the real issue?

I think that it is absurd to justify this on the basis of posing a
danger as a chess coach. I believe lots of children have been coached
by Polgar, and there have been no incidents. I would have no problem
sending my own children for such coaching, even though I believe that
Truong made the fake Sam Sloan posts.

Try to stay focused on the real issue; it will be good for the case,
for your image, and is the morally correct thing to do.

Jerry Spinrad


On Apr 23, 10:46=A0am, samsloan <samhsl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Oldtimer, whose real name is Todd Miller, has posted the following
> over on the USCF Issues Forum:
>
> [quote=3D"oldtimer"]I believe there are times when it is appropriate to
> delve into a board members personal life. =A0For example, =A0if there is
a=

> coach who the authorities have forbidden him from being alone with his
> own children as it puts a bad face on the USCF and the USCF should be
> advertising such a person as a coach. But I agree that merely rumor or
> speculation without any evidence is inappropriate. =A0Unfortunately, in
> this censored forum frequently only the false rumor and speculation is
> what remains. =A0Other examples might include when the board member
> accuses members of being deranged on some other censored website or
> when the board member publishes phony emails under a pseudonym.[/
> quote]
>
> The casual reader will naturally assume that this is just a
> hypothetical case. However, this is a real case. Judge Mildred Negron
> specifically ordered that Paul Truong is not to be left along with
> Susan Polgar's children. The Court order states:
>
> =A0RESPONDENT MOTHER IS NOT TO LEAVE CHILDREN UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF
> HER PARAMOUR, KNOWN AS "PAUL" PENDING FURTHER INVESTIGATION. INGESTION
> OF HOT SAUCE IS NOT TO BE USED AS A FORM OF DISCIPLINE. ADJOURN DATE;
> DECEMBER 19, 2006.
> PT-42
>
> Dated: November 15, 2006
>
> Susan Polgar repeatedly on her blog states that this is a personal
> matter and the Executive Board has no business being involved in this.
>
> However, do not the members of the USCF and in particular the parents
> of our 30,000 scholastic members have a right to know that a member of
> the board of the USCF is under court order not to be left alone with
> his own step-children?
>
> Next, note how Todd Miller carefully phrases his words. This is
> because the USCF Issues Forum is heavily censored by known fanatical
> Polgaristas Herbert Rodney Vaughn and Tim Sawmiller. Todd Miller knows
> that if he comes out and writes that his remarks refer specifically to
> Paul Truong, he will be censored and more than that he will likely be
> banned from posting there altogether. Anybody familiar with these
> cases knows that all three examples provided by Todd Miller in his
> quote above refer to Susan Polgar and Paul Truong, who have done all
> those things. Now, the other USCF Members who post there are not
> allowed to know about these problems unless they happen to come over
> here. Many if not most of the regulars over here never come here so
> they will never know about this.
>
> I think an appropriate analogy is the examples of Catholic Priests
> who, when caught in acts of pedophilia, were simply transferred to
> another parish where they could do it again and again and keep being
> transferred and their new supervisors could never know why they had
> been transferred there, and thus would not be alerted to the serious
> problem.
>
> Now, has not the USCF put itself in serious jeopardy of a major
> lawsuit by a parent who only after the fact finds out that Paul Truong
> is considered by the courts to be a danger to his own children? Since
> the pro-Polgar moderators, Vaughn and Sawmiller, were appointed by
> Bill Hall and Bill Goichberg for the specific purpose of censoring any
> anti-Polgar remarks, are not they in jeopardy and putting the USCF in
> jeopardy by leaving Vaughn and Sawmiller in positions where they can
> keep the member****p from finding out the true background of Truong and
> Polgar?
>
> Sam Sloan
 




 14 Posts in Topic:
Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-04-23 08:46:44 
Re: Stop LYING about Truong And Polgar
"Ray Gordon, creator  2008-04-23 12:05:33 
Re: Stop LYING about Truong And Polgar
"foad" <ooo@  2008-04-23 16:32:40 
Re: Stop LYING about Truong And Polgar
"Ray Gordon, creator  2008-04-23 12:59:02 
Re: Stop LYING about Truong And Polgar
"foad" <ooo@  2008-04-23 17:03:04 
Re: Stop LYING about Truong And Polgar
"Ted E Bear" &l  2008-04-23 12:10:47 
Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
"Ray Gordon, creator  2008-04-23 12:06:15 
Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
"Ted E Bear" &l  2008-04-23 17:02:26 
Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
"jeremy.p.spinrad@[E  2008-04-23 09:14:46 
Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
ojqes38e82001@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-23 16:27:21 
Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
Nomen Nescio <nobody@[  2008-04-24 07:20:25 
Re: Stop LYING about Truong And Polgar
krose@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-23 11:20:33 
Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-04-23 11:22:14 
Re: Oldtimer puts his finger on the Censorship Problem
samsloan <samhsloan@[E  2008-04-23 13:35:01 

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