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Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?

by Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 7, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Sanny wrote:
> A week back Zebediah used to win in 20-30 moves but now the GetClubs
> game was a bit improved now Zebediah takes 35 moves to win against the
> Advance Level.

But your program was already dead in the water at move 25. He just took 
another 10 moves to finish it off.
> 
> If you can spot any mistake in GetClubs game I can improve it further.

The predictable spite checks do not help. He set up a position where the 
spite check gets the queen into trouble and Getclub fell for it hook 
line and sinker. Getclub also set about partially creating a trap for 
its own queen which Zebediah did not exploit.

> I do not understand how zebediah manages to win Advance in just 35-40
> Moves?

He is a lot stronger than your program and possibly an anticomputer 
specialist. He is winning in about 20 moves it take 35-40 before the 
computer finally sees that.
> 
> 
> Game Played between zebediah and advance at GetClub.com
> 
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> zebediah: (White)
> advance: (Black)
> Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
> View Recorded Game:
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM19903&game=Chess
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> White -- Black
> (zebediah) -- (advance)
> 
> 10. e4-d5{330} Qd8-a5{1444}

Spite check 10. ... Be7 was OK

> 13. c4-b5{104} Qb6-d4{2188}

Queen move when 13. ... Ne4 was better

> 16. Bf1-e2{234} Ra8-c8{1372}

16. .... d5 was better

> 18. Ke1-g1{514} d5-d4{2022}

d5 is asking for trouble by restricting queens mobility. It is all 
downhill from here. Whites queenside pawns are already lethal.
19. Bf3 and blacks queen is struggling for safe squares.

18. ... Bc5 (or Bd6, Be7) about as good as there is

> 22. Ra1-c1{518} Qe4-a8{3138}

22. ... RxR  23. QxR Qa8 is better.

> 24. a6-a7{128} Nf6-d5{1558}

24. ... Qb7 or Ke7 or Ne4 are the least bad.

> 26. Bb5-c6{410} Nd5-f6{1798}

26. ... h5 makes the best of a bad job

> Is it making Tactical Mistakes or it is doing Strategy Mistake. Please
> Explain the mistake So that I really undersatand what went wrong.

It is a fairly simple tactical error. It isn't a good idea to move the 
queen excessively, give spite checks that help your opponent to develop 
minor pieces or to trap your own queen. And letting him grab a huge 
queenside pawn advantage early on isn't very smart either.

Regards,
Martin Brown
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com
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Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-02 22:56:16 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 12:04:42 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 22:16:59 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-03 23:01:49 
Help Bot Advice adopted.
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-03 23:48:47 
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Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 00:23:46 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-08 09:37:02 
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zzz <ik_ben_piet_snot@  2008-05-04 10:40:38 
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Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-04 10:50:26 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 20:38:25 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-04 21:01:49 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-07 12:30:51 
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Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-07 09:38:44 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-07 14:40:17 
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Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-08 22:19:06 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-09 10:14:25 
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Peter Osterlund <peter  2008-05-11 08:58:41 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-12 09:22:57 
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Peter Osterlund <peter  2008-05-12 16:01:33 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 00:45:27 
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"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-09 08:18:00 
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Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-09 21:54:34 
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Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-05-10 14:37:23 
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help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-09 23:27:06 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-09 23:30:54 
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"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-05-10 01:15:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-05-10 03:05:32 
Re: Zebediah win against the Advance Level, Please Analyze?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-10 04:32:18 
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Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-05-11 21:21:23 
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