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Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!

by Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 09:10 PM

Sanny wrote:
>>> I do not think Help Bot was taking help of any Computer still he wins.
>>> Which means there is something wrong in GetClubs game play.
>>   You've only now realized this??
> 
> I think the 20th Move 20. Rxf7 was the move that killed the game. He
> thought 20 ply a very difficult task for any human.
> 
>>> 20. Rf2-f7{662} Be6-f7{1840}
> 
>> I admire helpbots bravery. I am not sure I would risk this sac
>> against a machine. Forced sequence of moves follows.
> 
> Really that sacrifice of Two Rook for a Bishop & Knight is very
> puzzuling.

It isn't just about material. Sma****ng your kingside castled position 
into oblivion with an active queen is ample compensation here, but it 
requires very steady nerves and accurate play.
> 
> Let Help Bot answer why he made that descision was he able to see what
> will happen after 20 ply?

A significant pro****tion of the moves are forced. He could see further 
than your program and that seems to be the way both helpbot and zebediah 
  are able to crucify it. They have a good feel for where the event 
horizon of the Getclub lookahead is and construct situations where they 
can see the right path and the program cannot.

You need to sort out the quiescence search logic and/or add singular 
extensions to allow the program to see into forced and semi forced lines 
more reliably.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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 39 Posts in Topic:
Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-16 22:53:02 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 07:08:38 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-17 08:55:50 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-17 10:16:25 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 10:45:29 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-17 15:45:57 
Zebediah Returned to take back his crown !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-17 22:14:37 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-18 00:35:58 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-18 16:07:50 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-04-18 21:09:16 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 00:11:52 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-19 06:54:51 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 07:53:58 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 08:47:12 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-20 02:36:27 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-20 02:53:28 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-20 03:29:00 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-21 00:42:28 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-21 01:21:49 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-21 05:19:42 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-21 10:40:55 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-22 09:13:37 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-22 02:20:26 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-22 16:06:42 
Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 01:28:36 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-23 12:40:41 
Zebediah again win the game with Advance Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 01:40:41 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 06:28:57 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 11:05:15 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-23 21:10:01 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-23 16:28:10 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 22:53:02 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 10:19:25 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 22:56:04 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-24 04:27:23 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Markus Islinger <mwifo  2008-04-24 14:19:02 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-24 13:49:08 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-24 08:44:27 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-24 09:47:38 

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