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Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!

by Sanny <softtanks@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 12, 2008 at 11:47 PM

> > No, it didn't beat me. It just declared the game won for itself for no
> > reason (except for being up on material). Looking at the game score it
> > clearly did not know how to win.
> > No, it does not win, it cheats and doesn't follow the rules.
>

I saw the Recorded game below
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=3DDM19183&game=3DChess

The Beginner declared win as it saw a Mate in 4.

Last position was

White: K-d1

Black: K-f4, R-g2, N-e4

And it was Black to move. Black found Mate in 4 So declared itself a
win.

1. ... Ke3 2. Kc1 Kd3 3. Kb1 Nc3+ 4. Kc1 Rc2# (Mate in 4)

I analyzed with another computer and found a Mate in 4. Thats the
reasion GetClub gave itself a Win. I am happy to see GetClub was able
to see Mate in 4.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

> =A0 At the end, there was no explanation of the
> result-- did Bjoem resign (or did the program
> detect a mate-in-twenty and forfeit him)? =A0My
> guess is he got fed up after it repeated the
> same position over and over, and clicked the
> "resigns" button several moves later when it
> became apparent that the program *did* know
> how to win; it was in fact forcing his King to
> the edge of the board, and using all of its men
> for the final assault (how odd!).

It was Mate in 4 as per analysis by other computer.

1. ... Ke3 2. Kc1 Kd3 3. Kb1 Nc3+ 4. Kc1 Rc2#

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

> =A0 TheGetClubprogram did work more-or-less
> correctly in two recent draws against me; but
> for all we know, it may have only done so
> because it thought it was "saving" an inferior
> position by granting the draw. =A0When ahead

Yes, I have seen many games wwhere Draw has come by repitition of
moves.

When GetClub is at advantage, I have told it to change its move So
that repetition with draw do not happen. So After 2 repetition it
changes its move to avoid draw.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

> =A0 In another recent game, I noticed that it still
> moves its own King into check on the final
> move, rather than try and delay checkmate
> as long as possible like most programs.

Yes, When it finds a Mate in 3/ 4. It feels all moves are equally bad.
And it gives equal points to all moves and Since king has to die it
sometimes plays King into Check. But when it plays such move It has
already Resigned. User only sees such moves when looking at recorded
Games. Player never sees that move being made while playing.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

>
> =A0 But there definitely seems to be a big
> improvement in its strength of play. =A0I will
> from now on be looking to trade the Queens
> off, to avoid getting "thumped" the way I was
> in the recent game where I saw no significant
> problem, but in fact walked into a very neat
> mating net. =A0Yowie-- I was actually outplayed
> by theGetClubprogram?!!! =A0LOL

Now if you think harder you can win Beginner with a Pawn odds.

Easy Level can win you with a Pawn Odd. meaning if you have a extra
pawn then your game will be equal to that of Easy Level.

Here is the new Rating I give to all

Beginner: 1900 (5-10 sec/ move)
Easy: 2100 (20-30 sec/ move)
Normal: 2300 (1-2 min/ move)
Master: 2500 (5-10 min/ move)

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
 




 18 Posts in Topic:
GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-10 01:46:37 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sin768@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-10 02:01:19 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-10 10:48:58 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sin768@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-10 12:22:11 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-10 22:04:42 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sin768@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-10 22:36:39 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-11 02:29:01 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-11 20:59:42 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-11 21:04:41 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-11 21:44:01 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-12 22:48:22 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-12 19:11:47 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-12 23:47:44 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-13 09:19:43 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-13 01:08:58 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-16 22:35:09 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-16 22:36:56 
Re: GetClub Chess further improved as seen against Rybka !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 08:47:39 

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