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Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?

by richardhutnik@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 5, 2008 at 02:41 PM

On Apr 5, 12:08 pm, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 8:24 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 4:11 am, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > What do you say how many people will play GrandChess?
>
> > I wouldn't hold my breath.
>
> > I don't think anyone has invented a variant quite like yours before,
> > with two of every piece *including the King* and the need to checkmate
> > both of them. But that's howChesson the four-sided board is usually
> > played, and it's played as a partner****p game, so the double-dummy
> > version of that already satisfies most people who would be interested
> > in your variant.
>
> > Many people have, for whatever reason, proposed enlarged versions
ofChesswhere there are two Queens, four Knights, and so on, however.
> > The ideas was that by not adding pieces with new powers, they could
> > concentrate on makingChesslarger without making it more complicated,
> > and a largerChesswould be a step towards a more realistic wargame.
>
> > Some related games also did add one or two pieces with new powers. The
> > Duke of Rutland'sChessis one example, and several games on an 11 by
> > 11 board come to mind.
>
> > Double-dummy MecklenburgChess, on a 16 by 8 board, or DoubleChesson
> > a 16 by 12 board, are similar to your idea as well, but with a doubly-
> > repeated array rather than an array of piece-pairs. DoubleChess,
> > though, requires checkmating either King, not both.
>
> > John Savard
>
> When we win by Killing just one King. Whole game revolves arround
> surrounding the opponents King and Give Mate in 2/3. But with 2 Kings
> to be finished It would be difficult the kings if they are far away So
> more strategy is needed.
>
> Player can give Sacrifice of 1 King to get a Queen Extra and everyone
> know if you have a Queen Extra how much ahead you can go.
>
> So When 2 kings are there One will never give Queen/Rook/Bishop
> Sacrifice to kill the first King else Opponent can otherwise easily
> win.
>
> So more concentration will be on how to kill opponent pieces and then
> finish opponents both the Kings.

The maker of Millennium Chess, that uses two kings, argues that you
can give up a queen to make the other king on the board vulnerable,
because until you knock out one king, you can't lose the game.
Because there is so much firepower on the board, this is doable.

May I suggest here, that if you want help working on your design, and
playtesting it, propose it as an experimental version and have the
chess variant community help you out, and go with their suggestions.
I am trying to do this with the IAGO Chess System I have actually, for
IAGO, to integrate variants and so on, into IAGO for tournament play.
In no way do I claim to have all the answer, and no way am I go to
pontificate that I have the next chess, or as it is now is the
answer.  I would expect experience of play to pan it out in the end,
with what play dictates to decide.  Well, that is my take.  You might
want to consider more play experience, instead of just theory on what
would or would not work.

- Rich
 




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What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-05 03:11:22 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-05 06:00:14 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Quadibloc <jsavard@[EM  2008-04-05 08:24:13 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-05 09:08:13 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-05 09:25:47 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
richardhutnik@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-05 14:36:36 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sin768@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-05 15:23:05 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-10 10:54:32 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
richardhutnik@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-05 14:41:41 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-04-05 14:58:52 

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