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Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?

by richardhutnik@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 5, 2008 at 02:36 PM

On Apr 5, 6:11 am, Sanny <softta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I invented GRAND CHESS But later found the Name is already taken by
> someone else

Yes, rename it, and ****t it to Zillions, and watch Zillions play it
100+ times to see what needs to be done.  At this point, you have two
unprotected pawns above the outer knights on each side.  This is
considered a major no-no as far as designs go, and something you seek
to avoid.

Also, once you have a good new name (call it Sanny Chess, or something
else), then register it on the chessvariants.org site and let people
discuss it there.  I would also suggest, if you are going to not have
castling, consider a variant where players get to customize their own
back rows as they like, so they can, through play, see what exactly
works for doubling of everything.

It is key to look at what was done before, and what works and what
doesn't.  It is easy to just throw something together.  As for it
working, that is another thing.

> So we have to Finish Two Kings. Current Chess with 1 King you just
> find a way to kill the King and you win. With Grand Chess you have to
> play much tough game to beat the Opponent. Only Castling is not
> Allowed
>
> ADVANTAGES of Grand Chess

How is this an advantage?  How is merely more better?  If you ever run
out to Las Vegas, get one of those 18-24 inch super hotdogs they sell
for less than $2 and try to eat it.  It is more of a smaller dog.
Then please comment that more is better.

> 1. You can seperate the Kings and delay the Check Mate.
>
> 2. Incase your One king is in trouble you may let it kill while
> attacking Opponents Other King. So You have to kill Both the Kings to
> Win.

So, you are replacing checkmate with two piece regicide?  That is a
basic change to regular chess, which then makes for stalemate to be
useless.

> 3. The Game will need 200-400 Moves and you can play one game for 1
> week. Small blunder will not kill you. If you are a good player you
> can win even if you made 1-2 Blunders.

Will someone please speak up here as to why someone would want to have
a 200-400 move game?  Maybe I am missing something.  How about people
actually play multiple games instead?  By the way, as has been seen in
Millennium Chess, which has a similar piece count to yours, going down
a queen is very damaging.  So, a blunder large.  Anyhow, how many
times have you actually played your game?

> 4. Since there are so many possibilities more strategy will be needed
> to win the game. Just by attacking one King will not give you a win.

Millennium Chess does this exact same thing, but remains truer to
chess than what you have.

> 5. Opening theories will be needed for Grand Chess.

You mean as in opening books with new moves that have names?  Why do
you want to give the world yet another chess game that produces a
thing that people complain about now, that chess is to dependent on
opening book play?  May I suggest your chess actually follow the
opening theories of regular chess, so it is comfortable to people?

> Please suggest a new name for this Chess, as GRAND CHESS is already
> taken by other people.

Sanny Chess, Chess Squared, or something else that isn't up on the
chess site, that matches what you want to do.  Doppliganger, or
whatever.  It is your game.

> Once people start liking this game I will create this game for GetClub
> Chess. What do you say how many people will play Grand Chess?

You mean your Grand Chess or Christian Freeling's Grand Chess?
Christian Freeling's Grand Chess is know, and was designed to solve
the issues with having Capablanca Chess pieces in play.  His moving
everything up one row keeps similar spacing, and the mobile rooks in
back add another dimension to chess that replaces castling.

As for your version, I have no idea.  My two cents is that the
distance is WAY too longer for my tastes.  It takes FOREVER to get
pawns across the board, and there is far too much mobility in the
pieces that have unlimited range.  You might want to limited the range
of all the long range pieces to 8 squares, and go from there.  Again,
I have no idea how many will play it.  I doubt you will be able to
actually be able to play in in real life, finding a board for it.

How many times have you actually played your game?  I mean, even run
it in Zillions.

- Rich
 




 10 Posts in Topic:
What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-05 03:11:22 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-05 06:00:14 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Quadibloc <jsavard@[EM  2008-04-05 08:24:13 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-05 09:08:13 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-05 09:25:47 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
richardhutnik@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-05 14:36:36 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sin768@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-05 15:23:05 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-10 10:54:32 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
richardhutnik@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-05 14:41:41 
Re: What Should I re-name "Grand Chess"?
"Wlodzimierz Holszty  2008-04-05 14:58:52 

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