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Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!

by Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Sanny wrote:
> Help Bot also win Advance Level, Do you see any thing wrong with
> GetClubs Game.

Plenty. Including some things that are completely inexplicable.

> White -- Black
> (help bot) -- (advance)
> 
> 1. a2-a3{30} e7-e5{0}
> 2. c2-c4{4} Ng8-f6{1608}
> 3. g2-g3{12} Bf8-c5{1308}

Already out of book (although like an English opening).

> 4. e2-e3{28} Ke8-g8{1724}
> 5. Bf1-g2{18} c7-c6{3132}

c6 blocks a good knight square without doing much good.
At this point I think Getclub misses a trick.
White is slightly overstretched and I think 5. ... d5 is possible with 
advantage. Then 6. d4 exd4 7. exd4 Be7 etc. d6, Nc6, or Bb6 would also 
be OK.
> 10. Nb1-c3{48} Bb6-c7{1814}

More deckchair shuffling. Bg4 would give black some decent chances here.
Two minor pieces remain undeveloped (tweaking eval to encourage moving 
them might help). It is basically OK so far.

> 15. Ne2-f4{272} Bc7-f4{1616}

BxN doen't help black. Ne7 is better

> 16. Rf2-f4{120} g7-g5{2762}

Very very brave (or foolhardy) the king needs a safe haven!

> 18. Bc1-d2{28} Ra8-b8{2568}

In heavens name why??? This move isn't even in the top 10!
Ng4 to harrass whites rook is by far the most obvious move.
Otherwise white will double them and punch a big hole into what is an 
already fractured kingside.

> 19. Ra1-f1{544} Nf6-g4{1512}

Too late.
> 20. Rf2-f7{662} Be6-f7{1840}

I admire helpbots bravery. I am not sure I would risk this sac against a 
machine. Forced sequence of moves follows.
> 24. Qh8-h5{30} Kf7-g8{1516}

I think 24. .... Kg7 would be wiser.

> 25. Qh5-g4{136} Re8-e7{2928}

Words fail me. I cannot understand what Getclub thinks it is playing at 
here. Rf8 or Qe7 are the least bad continuations. This just leaves the 
king hopelessly exposed to the enemy queen after another pawn falls.

> 30. Nc3-e2{132} Rb8-f8{1588}

30. ... Qh6 would get some counterplay.
Rf8 just helps white put his knight onto f4. It is all downhill now.

> 34. Kg1-f2{242} Nc6-b8{2044}

I think 34. BxN bxB 35. d5  pinning rook against king is faster.

> Which were the wrong moves that took Advance Level to destruction.
> 
> I do not think Help Bot was taking help of any Computer still he wins.
> Which means there is something wrong in GetClubs game play.

It means helpbot is stronger than the program. He also has the patience 
of a saint if those Getclub timings are in seconds 30-40 mins per move.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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 39 Posts in Topic:
Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-16 22:53:02 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 07:08:38 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-17 08:55:50 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-17 10:16:25 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-17 10:45:29 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
SBD <DrDowd@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-17 15:45:57 
Zebediah Returned to take back his crown !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-17 22:14:37 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-18 00:35:58 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
"chipschap@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-18 16:07:50 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Kenneth Sloan <Kenneth  2008-04-18 21:09:16 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 00:11:52 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-19 06:54:51 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 07:53:58 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-19 08:47:12 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-20 02:36:27 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-20 02:53:28 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-20 03:29:00 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-21 00:42:28 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-21 01:21:49 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-21 05:19:42 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-21 10:40:55 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-22 09:13:37 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-22 02:20:26 
Re: Please Analyze this game between Easy Level & Chrisf
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-22 16:06:42 
Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 01:28:36 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-23 12:40:41 
Zebediah again win the game with Advance Level
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 01:40:41 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
ttk5079@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 06:28:57 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 11:05:15 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-23 21:10:01 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-23 16:28:10 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 22:53:02 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Bjoern <bjoern@[EMAIL   2008-04-24 10:19:25 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-23 22:56:04 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-24 04:27:23 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Markus Islinger <mwifo  2008-04-24 14:19:02 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Martin Brown <|||newsp  2008-04-24 13:49:08 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
Sanny <softtanks@[EMAI  2008-04-24 08:44:27 
Re: Help Bot wins the Advance Level !!!
help bot <nomorechess@  2008-04-24 09:47:38 

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